<p>I'm doing a project on racism for class and just wanted to hear some CCer's opinions on the Effects of Racism on the Asian Population.</p>
<p>It can be about how racist asians are or how people are racist against them.</p>
<p>Lets keep this civilized folks.</p>
<p>Dont have much to say, except that generally i see that asians gather together and exclude others. this is slightly the case at my school. i mean everyone gets along, but the asians are closer to e/o</p>
<p>I'm an Asian in Romania. My school doesn't exactly have the highest population of Asians (as it's bloody expensive, $20,000/senior year, so most international students go to other schools), so I do experience a lot of ignorance about Asia on my part.</p>
<p>I do recall standing in the front of my school with an Indian classmate (with really dark skin) and having a young Caucasian mother walk by with her husband and elementary kid. While passing us, a really disgusted look passed her face and she turned her head to look in the other direction.</p>
<p>:mad: Jeez, woman, what did you expect, having your kid attend a freaking International School? Did you think it meant only other European nationals??</p>
<p>I can say some of the older-generation Asians I've encountered (parents, relatives) are sometimes a little "hmmmm!" about Western culture and how "free" they are. I believe the word "indecent" has passed through their mouths occasionally. Of course, it may have to do more with my relatives and parents' religious beliefs. I can state my parents think any place open after 9pm is a "place of bad influence". (i.e. Clubs, discos)</p>
<p>There's also that stereotype about how Asians are smart at math. Having attended International Schools in Asia where the majority are Asian (Vietnamese, S.E. Asian, Korean), and Int'l Schools in Europe where the majority are Romanians/Americans, I can say that stereotype doesn't hold true. Where Asians are NOT the majority, they seem really smart at math. Schools where Asians ARE the majority, you can see it spreads over the whole entire spectrum. It makes sense. More students, more evidence of divergence in ability.</p>
<p>Hmmm...I think asians have a stigma of being workaholics, which is partially a cultural thing (esp for immigrants). This is caused because in Asia (China especially I think), if you don't work hard enough, your life will be to work in the factory. </p>
<p>This is the case for one of my friends, whose parents put tons of stress on her about her schoolwork/SATs etc, but other than not being able to go out and do stuff it hasn't really affected her. And as far as I know, she doesn't come into contact with too much racism.</p>
<p>This may be off-topic, but I think racism is more prevalent WITHIN the Asian community than as an outside factor. It can be seen especially in older Asians, who, for example as Chinese, hold a great deal of hostility towards all Japanese people because the Japanese refuse to acknowledge the Rape of Nanjing, or as fobs denouncing the whitewashed or vice versa, or as parents who insist children must marry within their nationality, or look down on people from the southern portions of Asia like the Vietnamese, Cambodians, etc. </p>
<p>More on topic, besides the pulling-up-the-corners-of-eyes-hey-I-look-just-like-you-now and the ching-chong-chook, what does that mean in insert Asian language here thing in elementary school, I guess the only racism that I experience is from well meaning people who have misconceptions about how Asian culture operates, like the purpose of modesty being confused for extremely low self esteem. </p>
<p>Public things like Abercrombies bright two Wongs can make it white idea seem like kind of a gray area. On one hand, they obviously do such things like for the free publicity that comes with controversy, and actually thinking enough of them to make a big deal out of it, is just playing into their hands. On the other hand, remaining passive sends the message that such a thing is all right. Its meant to be taken lightly, but perhaps its not a thing youre supposed to make light of and that some misguided people will actually take seriously as a part of their perception of the race.</p>
<p>Well that was a lot of run-on sentences. Sorry for the ramble :o</p>
<p>What about discrimination in educational opportunities which allows race to be taken into account for purposes of college admissions?</p>
<p>Are we talking about Affirmative Action? I think it's thoroughly discussed on other threads. I don't know much about it, so I'm not going to say anything. But I do not Asians aren't considered URMS except in really "white" colleges/universities.</p>
<p>"More on topic, besides the pulling-up-the-corners-of-eyes-hey-I-look-just-like-you-now and the ching-chong-chook, what does that mean in insert Asian language here thing in elementary school"</p>
<p>^^ have definitely experienced that. My mother certainly does not like the Japanese. I go to a school with 50% Asian population and once there was graffiti on the ways that said "***** chinese koreans..etc etc" but it got erased afterwards.</p>
<p>I've walked on the streets once and some guy on a bike sped past by and yelled "***** you china" to me. I yelled a big ***** you back to him. </p>
<p>Of course I don't know if you count Nationalism as racisim. My father often says China is going to be the world's next superpower and that it's going to pwn America soon so I should marry Chinese or whatever. </p>
<p>There's also people who don't even KNOW that Asians arent considered URMs. Cuz that ****es me off. They're like "but you'll get an advantage cuz you're a minority".. "but I'm Asian.." "so?" >_<</p>
<p>Of course my earlier comment referred to discrimination against Asians in college admissions. I thought that this was so obvious that it needn't be clarified.</p>
<p>I don't know about racism, but television definately doesn't give Asians their fair share. There was a report in March, I think, that analyzed cable TV and found that there were like NO asian characters in sitcoms (as main characters) and that in dramas, asians were only there to be scientific. The closest non-scientific asian they found was the guy on Law and Order: SVU, the psychiatrist.</p>
<p>Michael, you could probably find that report if you looked. It was really interesting. I saw it on CNN, and it might have been in the Washington Post a couple days later.</p>
<p>hm....there is a lot of racism. But it's everywhere (not that i'm in any way saying it's a good thing)</p>
<p>Nationalism obviously inspires a great deal of racism. My parents are Chinese (well, i am too ^<em>^) but there's a lot of negative comments made about Americans in the Asian community. But then, if you look at the Americans and their patrioticism, there's a lot of negative comments being made about other countries too. Because everyone thinks their own country is best. Or if they don't they try to be like people from another country in which case people from both countries kind of look at them funny.
About Asians being somewhat elitist. This makes sense (although i'm not supporting this either) because a lot of parents who do this do so b/c of language barriers. I know my parents have a lot of an easier time talking to other chinese ppl b/c they can relate to them and also speak in alarmingly rapid chinese with them. The next generation will also do that. Partly b/c their parents are friends and so they've grown up knowing each other and also b/c being first/second/third/etc generation Asian does mean that they've been raised w/ a diff. set of values and traditions and so sometimes it's easier to hang out w/ someone who know what you're saying and where you're coming from.
So yes, Asians have Asian pride and other people have their own pride and this brings us all into direct conflict sometimes. What i really think is wrong is people making uneducated comments and refusing to change their opinions no matter what. And....now i've forgotten what the point of my long ramble was.....Oh well. Off to go volunteer at the international festival. Anyone in the Raleigh area in NC come visit!!! Cool stuff. Go visit the food booths. <---haha, sry, shameless plug. ^</em>~</p>
<p>The only racism I've seen towards me was in 3rd grade, when someone said something like "you Indian," when trying to be mean to me or something. But other than that, there really isn't anything. </p>
<p>There are a whole bunch of people that ask me if I speak Indian, or Hindu, or if my religion is Hindi, and stuff like that, but that isn't racism to me.</p>
<p>I get made fun of for not ONLY being Asian, but being several different, seemingly random races too! (I'm Cantonese, African-American, French, and Native American.)</p>
<p>I grew up in a predominately Hispanic community, and they just didn't understand (and they wouldn't be the last, either) HOW that (being a mutt) could happen. People would use their fingers to "Asianize" their eyes when they saw me, tried to butcher the language, and tried to call me bizarre slurs such as "Chink-nig***". Yeah, my childhood was lovely. </p>
<p>I thank the Gods that now it's not an issue.</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight so far, keep it coming.</p>
<p>I'll try to find that report on Asians not having major parts in television shows. </p>
<p>What do you all think I should focus on with this research on racism? An aspect of it where I could probably find lots of evidence to back up whatever I decided to say.</p>
<p>Hrm, well if you decide to go the "history of racism against Asian-Americans" route, Vincent Chin's case would be a good source of evidence. He was killed outside a bar in the eighties in Detroit on the eve of his wedding because his murderers thought he was Japanese (he was Chinese). At that time, the American auto industry was declining b/c of the surge of new Japanese cars, so there many unemployed people who used to work for Ford, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, etc held a lot of resentment against the Japanese. I believe the men killed Chin just got a slap on the wrist, like paying a fine because the "unbiased" judge said he could "understand the frustration the unemployed men felt." Which totally justifies the crime.</p>
<p>Speaking of the lack of Asian Americans on TV, there's usually the token Chinese/Japanese/Korean character, but you almost never see anyone Indian. You'd think there were no South Asian people in the US from watching sitcoms. Apparently, they don't even get to show up and be scientific and leave.</p>
<p>"... you almost never see anyone Indian. Apparently, they don't even get to show up and be scientific and leave."</p>
<p>Cuz their busy doing "real" research, and making lots of money. :)</p>
<p>I believe Asian people to be intelligent individuals with good work ethics. I know many Asians, and they are extremely kind and friendly. Rarely do I see
"snooty" Asians. Furthermore, I rarely see racism towards these people. I realized why there are so many Asian doctors, lawyers, and business people. Because they are hard working, care about education, and have very strong families. </p>
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<p>Another thing, there's probably going to be more racism towards Asians now, because of all the outsourcing of jobs to India and China.</p>
<p>Hey IzzyJ,</p>
<p>This is off-topic, but how do you like Bucuresti? In fact how do you like the country itself? I ask because I was born there (altough I immigrated to the US a long long time ago...)</p>
<p>A good site for info is "modelminority.org" it's a bit biased...ok, VERY biased, but it does have the mentioned report about asians on tv...as well as a gazillion other reports.</p>
<p>it's an interesting site. im asian, and i found some of the complaints made by fellow asians to be very..amusing..interesting..even wierd.</p>
<p>gr. affirmative action ****es me off. it's a good concept theoretically, but in application it sucks. it really really sucks.</p>