<p>-the best time time to eat breakfast if you're craving omelets is at either 7:45 or 8:45am. at this time, everyone has already started finishing their breakfasts. they are heading to class. the lines for omelets are shortest at this time. during the weekends, however, you will need to get to breakfast the latest at 10:20am because people are starting to line up for omelets
-at least for chemistry classes, you can visit old VOH sites and sometimes there are old exams posted on them with answer keys. </p>
<p>Hmm... I have some others but I cannot remember right now. Feel free to add yours.</p>
<p>wednesday nights and saturday nights mostly, but i make the drinks, not give out the pastries!</p>
<p>no really this applies to almost everyone there, except that fat ***** david</p>
<p>but heres something mroe useful</p>
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<li>the low fat muffins, danishes, bear claws, cinnamon twists and those seasonal stuffs like the frosted cookies and the macaroons, those are baked off campus, so they are not as fresh as the fatty blueberry muffins, croissants, rolls, etc.</li>
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<p>and all the things in the display are stale. they are rock hard, so please dont ask "can't you just give me the one there" because you won't want it</p>
-at least for chemistry classes, you can visit old VOH sites and sometimes there are old exams posted on them with answer keys.
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<p>I'm so not sure about this. I asked my TA about a problem from a past midterm I found on VOH, and he really reacted by sending me the UCLA Academic Integrity Code on email. He told me that he won't help me on the question unless I ask the professor for permission to use his, becuase "Obtaining unauthorized test materials without Professor's permission/acknowledgment can be a form of cheating, since not everyone has access to the old exams.</p>
<p>I wrote him back, telling him that if it's on VOH, it's public access. If the professor did not allow permission for the public to access his previous exams, he would have taken it off VOH or denied public access. Therefore, it cannot be unauthorized material. Anyone who can find the website can have usage of the exam.</p>
<p>Also, the Regents Scholar Society offers exchanges (donation and requests) of past exams. Anyone can get the freaking tests as "study aides"!!</p>
<p>What do you guys think? Anything to add to my position? I'm kind of upset and confused.</p>
<p>what the hell. that soooo BS. its one thing of you hacked into a server or something and obtained them, but like mentioned earlier, they are on a publicly accessible website.</p>
<p>if stacks of hardcopies of old exams were available in the halls of Young for anyone's taking, and you got one, would it be cheating? its a matter of being resourceful and knowing where to find things. by putting it on VOH (ie. unprotected internet website), the professor is by default letting anyone get access to it.</p>
<p>Getting this reply made me a bit more upset:</p>
<p>If you believe Professor ____ would be fine with it, you can bring
his old midterm and ask him during his office hour. And I strongly recommended you to ask for his permission because I will answer his previous midterm questions IF AND ONLY IF he is fine with it. Otherwise, I have told the rest of the TA not to answer any questions regarding his previous midterms. In addition, Professor ______ does not know how VOH work, and the previous TA did not take down his midterms from previous quarters. I am not going to spend more time on academic honesty because neither the TA nor the professor handle academic dishonesty. Any suspected academic dishonesty will be reported to and handled by the UCLA Dean of Student. Rfer to point 3 in cheating here: <a href="http://www.deanofstudents.ucla.edu/Student%20Guide.pdf%5B/url%5D%5B/i%5D">http://www.deanofstudents.ucla.edu/Student%20Guide.pdf</a></p>
<p>What should I do? I think I'm going to go up to Professor and ask him the question. If he asks where I got it, I'm going to say from the SAC because they should have most previous exams available for access.</p>
<p>But man I think I need some morale support hahaha.</p>
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Its one thing of you hacked into a server or something and obtained them, but like mentioned earlier, they are on a publicly accessible
website. Its a matter of being resourceful and knowing where to find things.
<p>Actually what class is it? I've never seen that kind of TA. It's so ridiculous. Almost everyone knows how to download old exams from VOH. I don't see anything unfair to other students. Besides, there's SAC which is open to everyone to get old exams.</p>
<p>whos the other professor? most likely he would be completely fine with it. probably not the best idea to lie about where you got it. maybe just email him or something and ask if it would be OK to use his old posted exams to study. then you could forward his response to your TA. i've really never heard of this before. many TAs encourage you to look up old tests.</p>
<p>That VOH thing is complete crap. It's there for everyone, and if the prof is too lazy to write up new questions he/she is the one with the problem.</p>