<p>I already have a good idea about the graduate schools but I was wondering if the rankings differed with undergraduate. Any response is appreciated.</p>
<p>From another thread. Ivies are indicated by an asterisk *.</p>
<p>SAT 25th, SAT 75th, school, Carnegie Classification</p>
<p>1470 1560 California Institute of Technology 2
1430 1560 Harvey Mudd College 2
*1400 1590 Yale University 2
*1390 1580 Harvard University 2
*1390 1580 Princeton University 2
1390 1560 Pomona College 2
1380 1560 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 2
1380 1540 Washington University in St Louis 2
*1360 1520 Cornell Engineering 2
1350 1520 Northwestern University 2
1350 1520 Swarthmore College 2
1340 1540 Duke University 2
1340 1500 Tufts University 2
*1330 1550 Dartmouth College 2
*1330 1540 Columbia University in the City of New York 2
1330 1540 Stanford University 2
*1330 1520 University of Pennsylvania 2
1330 1500 Vanderbilt University 2
*1320 1540 Brown University 2
1320 1530 Rice University 2
1320 1520 Amherst College 2
1320 1520 Williams College 2
*1320 1510 Cornell Arts and Sciences 2
1320 1500 University of Notre Dame 2
1320 1480 Washington and Lee University 2
1310 1530 University of Chicago 2
1310 1490 Carleton College 2
1300 1510 Bowdoin College 2
1300 1500 Claremont McKenna College 2
*1300 1500 Cornell University 2
1300 1490 Middlebury College 2
1300 1490 Wesleyan University 2
1300 1480 Haverford College 2
1300 1470 Emory University 2
1300 1460 Vassar College 2
1300 1450 Hamilton College 2
1290 1510 Johns Hopkins University 2
1290 1500 Carnegie Mellon University 2
1290 1470 Reed College 2
1280 1460 Brandeis University 2
1280 1430 Colby College 2
1270 1470 University of Southern California 2
1270 1465 Wellesley College 2
1270 1460 Colgate University 2
1270 1458 Davidson College 2
1270 1450 Macalester College 2
1260 1450 Oberlin College 2
1260 1440 Scripps College 2
1260 1420 Tulane University of Louisiana 2
1250 1460 Georgetown University 2</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li><p>Princeton / Yale</p></li>
<li><p>Penn / Columbia</p></li>
<li><p>Dartmouth / Brown</p></li>
<li><p>Cornell</p></li>
</ol>
<p>Based on value/ focus on undergrads.</p>
<ol>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
</ol>
<p>drop </p>
<ol>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
</ol>
<p>I think Princeton is best for undergrad</p>
<p>Cornell has one of the highest proportions of undergraduates in the Ivies (about 70%). It has a strong undergraduate focus.</p>
<p>I can’t believe you guys are discrediting Brown. Brown has one of the nations lowest undergraduate acceptance rates at 8% 08-09 academic year, and has one of the most liberal courseload options you can have as an undergraduate!!! You can take courses pass/fail, there is no real GPA, and if you look at graduate school acceptances, a very large majority of Brown undergraduate students go to top-notch grad schools.</p>
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<p>Why is that a good thing…</p>
<p>Harvard, Yale, Princeton
Penn, Columbia
Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell</p>
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<p>Because it doesn’t hinder our success in obtaining jobs or getting into top graduate schools while providing a lot of huge positives for our environment and learning experience:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/385841-brown-curriculum-university-college-explained.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/385841-brown-curriculum-university-college-explained.html</a></p>
<p>That being said, why does your list almost exactly follow the USNWR rankings?</p>
<p>To the OP-- I think you’d effect a difference in order when you look at undergraduate versus whole institution rankings, but how to determine what the order may be is quite difficult and not well-understood, just as general rankings are.</p>
<p>NuclearPakistan1</p>
<p>I don’t think anyone on here is discrediting Brown. I think everyone here thinks Brown is a fantastic school. However, i think what you don’t understand is that, all the schools that Brown is pitted against on here are wonderful, terrific, amazing schools that are the creme de la creme in America. therefore, the difference that everyone suggests on here is, in fact, very negligible that one wouldn’t really notice it. I think where the ivies differ (in terms of undergrad education) is in the student culture and location. Other than those, the ivies are almost equal.</p>
<p>Yale/Princeton</p>
<p>Columbia/Brown/Dartmouth</p>
<p>Harvard/UPenn</p>
<p>Cornell</p>
<p>
What? Why don’t you split up Cornell ECE, Cornell Mech as well. I’m sure Cornell ECE will be higher than WashU.</p>
<p>According to USNews, for what it’s worth:</p>
<p>Dartmouth
Princeton
Yale
Brown</p>
<p>[Best</a> Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-ut-rank]Best”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-ut-rank)</p>
<p>if I had to approximate undergrad prestige(basically the current market value of the diploma), this would be it </p>
<p>Harvard
Yale/Princeton
Penn/Columbia/Dartmouth
Brown/Cornell</p>
<p>
Exactly. </p>
<p>I love how whenever someone suggests that a university is the “worst” of the Ivy League, people are as shocked and angry as if someone had equated that university with Podunk State U. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Alright. First rank your family members. Then rank your friends. </p>
<p>I’m not tell you to rank their loyalty, their love, their friendship. No. Just rank them. Please?</p>
<p>brown/dartmouth/princeton
yale
columbia
penn
cornell</p>
<p>OP – Why? and who cares?</p>
<p>Not to be flip, but as has been discussed ad nauseum here, there and everywhere, each of the Ivy league colleges has its own unique characteristics, some are more alike than others, etc., etc., etc. Even if you are the rare student who has been accepted to them all and needs guidance on which to choose, would you choose largely based on the “ranking”? </p>
<p>Indeed, if someone applies to all the Ivies, I would argue they haven’t done their homework as to the character of each school…</p>
<p>Princeton
Dartmouth
Yale
Brown
Harvard
Columbia
Cornell
UPenn</p>
<p>Percent of undergraduates who earn PhDs.
Originally posted by interesteddad.</p>
<p>rank among all schools, % earning PhDs, school</p>
<p>10 14.5% Yale University
11 14.3% Princeton University
12 14.3% Harvard University
23 10.6% Brown University
29 9.0% Cornell University, All Campuses
47 8.1% Columbia University in the City of New York
54 7.6% Dartmouth College
65 6.5% University of Pennsylvania</p>