<p>Does being ranked 1 or 2 in a high school class of about 600 give considerable advantages when applying to Ivies, particularly Princeton or Yale? What about being 3rd? Is there a drastic difference or does it not matter as long as you're in the top 5%?</p>
<p>Generally, what is considered a good class rank to have for HYP? </p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Does this really need to be answered? Fine, I'll bite:</p>
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Generally, what is considered a good class rank to have for HYP?
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The higher the better.</p>
<p>Happy?</p>
<p>I don't think 5% would be the same as 1 or 2. At my school 5% could be as low as 25th.</p>
<p>Is this a serious question? </p>
<p>I mean...what do you honestly expect the answer to be? </p>
<p>No?</p>
<p>Well, yes, but not for why you think. If you're number one, you have a great GPA and probably some good test scores to go with it, so you stand a better chance than most of getting in.</p>
<p>But that isn't to say HYP go out and recuit Vals and Sals... they're the three best universities in the country and nothing will change that; they pick the best people they can, and these people are usually admitted because of the things that accompany a high rank, not because of the high rank.</p>
<p>Penn is the only one in the Ivy League that, to me, appears to go out and specifically try to get the 1's and 2's, although I haven't really researched Dartmouth that much in this regard. This is personal opinion, though, based on the fact that they seem pretty proud to display that statistic on their website.</p>
<p>Let me put things in perspective. There are over 25,000 High Schools in the United States. (There are probably more, that is just a very low guess.) That means that there are over 25,000 Valedictorians and 25,000 Salutorians. Granted, only a small percentage of them will apply to Princeton. But with so many #1s and #2s in the race, can you really afford to be as low as 25th?</p>
<p>Thanks but maybe I should have rephrased my question; what I meant was if being ranked 3rd looks considerably lower than being 1st or 2nd...</p>
<p>my take on it is that it wont matter, or at least it shouldnt matter. </p>
<p>im ranked 1 in my class, but its only because the elctives i took just happened to be weighted (our school does weights really really weird) and the 2 and 3 in my class took a different class which just happened to not be weighted to their dismay. </p>
<p>collegesll understand rank in many contexts, particularly because its not necessarily the best way to measure success in context.</p>
<p>of course, that doesnt mean you should go and be 25 in ur class.</p>
<p>IMO, being that close, 1, 2, and 3, really won't matter too much. They then look at your application as a whole: ec's, recs, and essays.</p>
<p>on what school you go to. I go to a Catholic school and Princeton, Harvard, and Yale have brought representatives to talk with us in our school's library. Also two girls each year have been accepted to Princeton for the past three years. Have any of the Ivy Leagues shown interest in your school. If I were you I would ask my counselor if there were any students who were accepted to the Ivy Leagues and if so find out what their ranks were.</p>
<p>hehe, class ranked 33 and still kicking!</p>
<p>Once your school gets students that are so strong academically, grades = pretty much everyone has an A. Best of all, with an unweighted ranking system, my 1 B in Freshmen year puts me at class rank 33. </p>
<p>I honestly think it won't matter too much though. If you win first or second at a national science competition, I don't think they'd give a "use your imagination" about your class rank.</p>
<p>also, keep in mind that only 25% or so of the val/sals that apply get accepted. So even if you are a val, its not an auto in type of a thing, and there are many people in hyp that arent val/sal, they are just outstanding students and people.</p>
<p>It REALLY depends on the school. At my school, a competitive private boarding school, if you get into at least the top ten you're secured for a really good university. There's only about 120 people or so in the grade, so top 5% does mean something. Colleges analyze your specific high school profiles. So as said before, it varies upon school to school. And besides, rank do not really play that great of a part in determining your acceptance to a school. Being valedictorian/salutatorian just gives you a nifty title, at least it does in my school, where many people are qualified. And besides, again, it depends on the school. Being 25th at a school like Exeter is great - they send over 60 kids to HYPSM a year.</p>
<p>Imo, it depends on the school's ranking system as well. Mine ranks based on unweighted, and this year it seems that no one with the hardcore AP's and test scores is going to have a chance for valedictorian.</p>
<p>Heh I'm the only person with the most difficult courseload of AP's in the top 10 of my class with a size of 713, and I'm val.</p>
<p>I think it helps, but it's not absolutely essential.</p>