<p>and I may be biased, but with my own personal experience, I believe that Cornell is the least selective ivy. I applied ED to penn 2 years ago and was ultimately denied. I got into Cornell CAS Rd and some other impressive schools such as UCLA and RIce (top 20 on us news, a bunch of T-15s).</p>
<p>in addition, the availability of lower priced tuition results in many new york residents (those with very high numbers and are cross-applying to other ivies and other selective schools) applying to NYS supported schools, i.e. ILR and agriculture. As a result, the pool of high-performing new york students applying to CAS is rather limited, I would venture to say. As a result, I argue that being from New York and applying to CAS would give one an advantage. And such an outcome seems clear to me, as I know plenty of really smart kids that got into Cornell CAS as New York applicants, who failed to gain admission to other highly competitive schools. In other words, let's say that 5000 New Yorkers apply to Cornell in general. If 4,000 are applying to Cornell's state supported schools and the other 1000 are applying to CAS and Engineering, you have a smaller proportion of applicants applying to the private portion of Cornell that are New York residents. This should give such applicants an advantage as schools are always after geographical diversity.</p>
<p>I'm still wondering why on earth people feel the need to rank the Ivy's. They're one group, the vast majority of people can only dream about a degree from any one Ivy. It's like people need more and more personal validation. </p>
<p>the only thing that really seems to hurt Cornell is its size. It's a big school, plain and simple ... this will naturally hurt selectivity, yet Cornell still remains highly competitive compared to it's much smaller Ivy peers. I still think that its size is one of Cornell's greatest assets...</p>
<p>Cornell is great.</p>
<p>Last year, Cornell was number 12 in the top 100 schools in the country. BROWN was behind it.</p>
<p>Interesting enough, on the list of the top 100 global universities, Cornell was the 5th ivy on the list placed at number 19. Brown was 56 and Dartmouth was not even on the list. I think that says something about Cornell.</p>
<p>I also believe that Cornell is a very different kind of school. It offers degrees in areas that one would never imagine. Since very little people have interest in these degrees, they have to accept the best of those people, which doesn't give them much to work on. However, this does NOT mean that the people whom are accepted into these colleges at Cornell at idiots or anything of that sort. I still think that Cornell is great and definately BETTER than SOME other ivies. Of course, not everyone will feel that way.</p>
<p>Whatever people say, I still love Cornell and I am happy to be attending this wonderful school.</p>
<p>By difficulty of getting accepted ...</p>
<p>1) Harvard
2) Yale*
2) Princeton*
4) Columbia
5) Penn
6) Brown
7) Dartmouth
8) Cornell</p>
<p>This is just based on what I have seen, in terms of who gets accepted where.</p>
<p>"Interesting enough, on the list of the top 100 global universities, Cornell was the 5th ivy on the list placed at number 19. Brown was 56 and Dartmouth was not even on the list. I think that says something about Cornell."</p>
<p>I remember seeing that ranking posted on this forum. Everyone laughed at it. Don't take that stuff seriously. It's just a manipulation of #'s.</p>
<p>That list was a grad/undergrad combined ranking.</p>
<p>Dartmouth is focused on undergrad, so its results weren't surprising.</p>
<p>You keep school small, you get low acceptance rate, as simple as that.</p>
<p>Purely number wise broken down by major undergrad divisions (mainly Wharton vs. Penn CAS, and Columbia College vs. Columbia SEAS)</p>
<ol>
<li>Columbia College (8.9%)</li>
<li>Wharton (9.0%)</li>
<li>Harvard (9.0%)</li>
<li>Princeton (9.46%)</li>
<li>Yale (9.6%)</li>
<li>Brown (13.53%)</li>
<li>Dartmouth (15.27%)</li>
<li>Penn CAS (18%)</li>
<li>Columbia SEAS (18%)</li>
<li>Cornell (20.5%)</li>
</ol>
<p>Columbia Combined admit rate was 10.35%
Penn Combined admit rate was 15.95%</p>
<p>"You keep school small, you get low acceptance rate, as simple as that."</p>
<p>-:)</p>
<p>
[quote]
1. Columbia College (8.9%)
2. Wharton (9.0%)
2. Harvard (9.0%)
3. Princeton (9.46%)
4. Yale (9.6%)
5. Brown (13.53%)
6. Dartmouth (15.27%)
7. Penn CAS (18%)
7. Columbia SEAS (18%)
8. Cornell (20.5%)
[/quote]
</p>
<p>What happened to Penn SEAS?</p>
<p>damn why is CC so much more selective than Columbia SEAS</p>
<p>^ Maybe it has something to do with the SEAS pool being more numbers driven and hence self-selective.</p>
<p>Btw, comparing acceptance rates is more marketing and how many spots are there than anything. Compare the stats of Enrolling students and you'll get a legit ranking.</p>
<p>Exactly. Isn't that New York CITY (not metro) alone has a population of over 8 million and many students just apply to CC by default?</p>
<p>How do you keep the school small? By not offering as many majors and different studies in the school, for instance what hotel management? or what the hell is communication degree or business school etc.......</p>
<p>The low acceptance rate for Columbia is misleading. Since the New York City area is so heavily populated and virtually every smart high school student in the city and surrounding areas like Long Island applies to Columbia, the number of applications is very high.</p>
<p>lol alright i see....I just wanted to know cause I might be applying ED, but a sub10% acceptance rate seems so intimidating</p>
<p>K AND S..your data is wrong!!!</p>
<p>brown had a 7 percent acceptance rate(or was it 9)....get your facts right</p>
<p>Ivies are all amazing. How can they be ranked? H,P,Y are the top 3, I think we can all agree with that. For the remaining five, I think they can be broken up into two groups:</p>
<p>1) Research powerhouses: Columbia, Cornell and Penn.</p>
<p>2) LACish universities: Brown and Dartmouth.</p>
<p>All 5 are awesome.</p>