Ranking Vs. Education

<p>Hi, I'm a H.S. senior in NY, and I'm accepted to William and Mary (W&M) and am waitlisted by NYU and Boston College</p>

<p>As all of you may know, NYU is ranked top 10 when it comes to business major, while Boston College is ranked 30th and W&M is ranked 40th</p>

<p>As much as i would love to goto NYU, I don't think that my luck would be on my side, so my question is:</p>

<p>As far as the rankings go, do i have to worry about the difference in the rankings when it comes to the course/educational qualities?</p>

<p>if i were to goto w&m, would it harm me by transfering to another school that is "better ranked" than w&m due to the difference in the courses of the schools? Or should i have no regret since being ranked as the 40th in the nation, w&m has certain guarantees in its education?</p>

<p>Thx</p>

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As all of you may know, NYU is ranked top 10 when it comes to business major, while Boston College is ranked 30th and W&M is ranked 40th</p>

<p>As much as i would love to goto NYU, I don't think that my luck would be on my side, so my question is:</p>

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<p>Are you talking about NYU Sterns or NYU?</p>

<p>I think hes talking about Stern! Ummm...i would stay on the wait lists at NYU and BC but defenetly send your money for W&M b/c I dont think Stern or BC take many off the waitlist. I think if you go to W&M you should just stay there if u like it! if you hate it i would transfer but as i see it...a degree is just a piece of paper when an education is hwat will get you the farthest!! w&m might not be #10 or #30 but it atleast ranks which means it half decent! i think if you make the most of it...you will do fine in the future!</p>

<p>try the waitlist but it will be tough, nyu took only 60 out of 1600 last year and that is all the schools combined(nursing, Steinhardt, CAS...) it will be tough to get in to either NYU or BC off waitlist. it will only be tougher with so many applicants this year. What were your stats like? There are many highly qualified people that were either rejected or waitlisted for Stern just from my school, so you can imagine what the overall picture looks like. 2250's. if you have the drive and put in the effort there is no reason why you shouldn't do well in W&M. don't be down, its an accomplishment that you made the watilist. good luck on your decision. and NYU is ranked top 5</p>

<p>Uhhh Stern =x, Although i applied as undecided</p>

<p>my stats are mediocre, in the average among other applicants</p>

<p>SAT M:760 V:650 W:580
GPA:93.xxx (weighted)
Total of about 4-5 APs
SATIIs
Chinese 800
Math Ic 720
IIc 680
Physics 720</p>

<p>stuff like that, average E.C. too =x</p>

<p>oh my... I got waitlisted and I am still very angry about it...</p>

<p>Stats
SAT: Math-760 Verbal-700 Writing-650
SATII: Math IIC-800, US history-760
GPA: 3.71 weighted
AP's: 9(NINE)
Honors: 11
Sports: Varsity Football 2 years
ALOT of extracurriculars believe me...</p>

<p>AND I GOT WAITLISTED BY STERN!!!!</p>

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a degree is just a piece of paper when an education is hwat will get you the farthest!!

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<p>I agree here.... where you go to school will mean diddly squat if you are only using it as a way to make your resume look good. I like to compare it to poker... you can put on a good poker face (pad your resume with school names) and try to bluff the system, but unless you have the right cards (actually know what it takes to succeed and how to apply it through a sound education, regardless of name), you will lose in the end. So, the substance is far more important than the packaging.... regardless of what USNews tells ya.</p>

<p>bigflyerz you should have gotten in. You really got screwed over.</p>

<p>I would go with W&M (better academic environment) unless you want a big city location.</p>

<p>Look into the recruiting at William & Mary, if you want a career in business recruiting is EVERYTHING. What's the point of paying 100K for an education that wont get you a job?</p>

<p>hahah this thread is very misleading towards the OP.... a difference in rank between 40 and 3 or w/ever stern is really is not that huge.......and US news ranking system is purely subjective wehn it ranks its biz schools............W and M is an excellent school...if the OP is up for it...he should look at my thread IVY League does not = CEO.... he'll find that school prestige is highly overrated.... its one's drive, passoin, ambition, and focus that will elevate you into the upper tiers of the business world...not a slightly "higher" degree</p>

<p>yes i know all of you are going to argue about RECRUITING RECRUITING RECRUITING....but that is really only at your first job or two...long term it really isnt that big.......</p>

<p>And the first job or two can make a very big difference. Look, what's the point of spending $100,000 or so dollars if you're not going to have good job prospects coming out? That's so pointless.</p>

<p>I'm not saying W&M is bad because I haven't looked into recruiting but recruiting should be an important factor when deciding, especially because the OP's purpose is to go into business.</p>

<p>You cannot look at the CEOs of today because they're a bad example, many of the CEOs today have had substantial work experience from the past, and in the past it was much easier to get jobs -- simply going to any college could get you a job, you had the ability to work in the mailroom, etc. This is NOT the case today.</p>

<p>KG974, maybe your post would be better directed at individuals in the Arts major forum or the Music major forum (because they're more comfortable with becoming baristas at Starbucks after college)</p>

<p>Check with W&M's recruiting office. They just sent the largest pool of graduates of any US university to Deutsche Bank's 2006 investment banking analyst program. Yes, more hires than Wharton. Placement is also extremely good at Lehman and JP Morgan not to mention Booz Allen and the Big 5..</p>

<p>in the LONG run...anyone who wants something will get it........picking schools is about "fit"...not about recruiting...and yes i understand that this is a business forum and everyone is interested in rising through the ranks and that the better recruited the school the easier it will be for you to rise later on....but we're talking about the difference between top 50 schools here..... the difference between them is rather minimal.... the individual's talent and ambition will alow him to rise...recruitment at any of these schools will bring opportunities to anyone who deserves it</p>

<p>"in the LONG run...anyone who wants something will get it........picking schools is about "fit"...not about recruiting...and yes i understand that this is a business forum and everyone is interested in rising through the ranks and that the better recruited the school the easier it will be for you to rise later on....but we're talking about the difference between top 50 schools here..... the difference between them is rather minimal.... the individual's talent and ambition will alow him to rise...recruitment at any of these schools will bring opportunities to anyone who deserves it"</p>

<p>I totally agree with this statement. I attend a top 50 school and while it's not a Wharton, I think I did better than the average Wharton grad. It all comes down to how ambitious and connected you make yourself.</p>