Rankings of Computer Science Programs?

<p>Based on faculty strength and contributions to IT industry, the ranking should be like this:</p>

<p>1) Stanford</p>

<p>Small GAP</p>

<p>2) Berkeley, MIT, CMU tied</p>

<p>Big GAP</p>

<p>5) UIUC, Princeton, Cornell</p>

<p>Big GAP</p>

<p>…</p>

<p>The ‘X-Lab’ List (Overall Ranking)
BUSINESS WEEK’s poll included this question: If you were 35 and had just won the first Nobel Prize for Information Technology, triggering invitations to the lab of your choice, which one would you pick? Most researchers did not choose the lab where they work. Here are the results:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Stanford University</p></li>
<li><p>AT&T Labs</p></li>
<li><p>Bell Labs (Lucent)
Carnegie Mellon University</p></li>
<li><p>MIT Lab for Computer Science
Santa Fe Institute</p></li>
<li><p>Microsoft Research</p></li>
<li><p>University of California-Berkeley</p></li>
<li><p>MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
MIT Media Lab</p></li>
</ol>

<p>[06/23/97</a> TABLE: The ‘X-Lab’ List (Overall Ranking)](<a href=“Businessweek - Bloomberg”>Businessweek - Bloomberg)</p>

<p>Business Week’s poll included this question: If you were 35 and had just won
the first Nobel Prize for Information Technology, triggering invitations to any
lab of your choice, which one would you pick? Most researchers didn’t chose the
lab where they work. Here are the complete results, with labs ranked within
four separate research categories: </p>

<p>COMPUTER SCIENCE</p>

<p>1st Choice: Stanford University</p>

<p>2nd Choices: Microsoft Research, University of California-Berkeley</p>

<p>3rd Choice: Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Laboratory for
Computer Science (LCS)</p>

<p>4th Choice: Carnegie Mellon University</p>

<p>5th Choices: AT&T Labs, Bell Labs (Lucent), MIT Media Lab, Xerox Palo Alto
Research Center (PARC)</p>

<p>TELECOMMUNICATIONS, NETWORKING, GROUPWARE</p>

<p>1st Choice: Bell Labs (Lucent)</p>

<p>2nd Choice: Stanford</p>

<p>3rd Choices: MIT LCS, Xerox PARC</p>

<p>4th Choice: AT&T Labs</p>

<p>5th Choice: University of Southern California</p>

<p>ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, ROBOTICS, SPEECH, INTERFACES </p>

<p>1st Choice: Stanford</p>

<p>2nd Choices: Carnegie Mellon University, MIT AI Lab</p>

<p>3rd Choices: Microsoft Research, Xerox PARC</p>

<p>4th Choices: AT&T Labs, IBM Research, MIT Media Lab</p>

<p>5th Choices: CMU Robotics Institute, Swiss Machine Learning Research
Institute (IDSIA), MIT LCS, University of Michigan</p>

<p>BIOLOGICALLY INSPIRED: ARTIFICIAL LIFE, GENETIC ALGORITHMS</p>

<p>1st Choice: Santa Fe Institute</p>

<p>2nd Choice: Stanford</p>

<p>3rd Choice: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL, Lausanne)</p>

<p>4th Choices: IDSIA, University of North Carolina, University of Sussex (UK)</p>

<p>5th Choices: Natural Selection Inc., Naval Research Lab, UC-San Diego,
University of Illinois</p>

<p>^ Wow! great facts, datalook.</p>

<p>That is very interesting… but isn’t that article from 1997? I don’t doubt those are still the top programs, but in terms of facilities, a lot has changed since then.</p>

<p>I am a fan of Stanford computer science. It’s undoubtedly the mega of information technology. </p>

<p>Stanford has won most Turing awards (the ‘Nobel’ prize in computing), with 20+ ties to Turing award if visiting professors are included. </p>

<p>Stanford computer science is ranked #1 by NRC, #1 by US-NEWS, #1 by Business Week, and #1 by the world academic rankings of universities. </p>

<p>Stanford people have been the driving force of Silicon Valley, which is the world’s technology locomotive. They founded YAHOO, GOOGLE, H-P, CISCO, VMWARE, NETSCAPE, and SUN. </p>

<p>Stanford’s contributions to IT industry (through its mile stone level inventions) are unmatched by any other place in the world. Thanks to Stanford’s leading role in internet technology, we are now able to surf the internet so easily. Stanford’s contributions to internet alone include TCP/IP internet protocol, multi-protocol internet router, 56K modem, DSL broad band internet connection, YAHOO, Google search engine, Altavista search engine, and SUN work station. </p>

<p>No other place in the world can match Silicon Valley in high tech. With academic powerhouses such as Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech, and UCSF as its neighors, Silicon Valley is #1 in high tech now, and it will remain to be #1 in high tech for the rest of the 21st century.</p>

<p>Netscape and most web surfing technology was originally designed at Illinois. The founders of Google went elsewhere for undergrad and their making of the Google concept had little to do wuth anything at Stanford. It was just where they met.</p>

<p>“Fortunately, Page was now working with Brin, whose prodigious gifts in mathematics could be applied to the problem. Brin, the Russian-born son of a NASA scientist and a University of Maryland math professor, emigrated to the US with his family at the age of 6. By the time he was a middle schooler, Brin was a recognized math prodigy. He left high school a year early to go to UM. When he graduated, he immediately enrolled at Stanford, where his talents allowed him to goof off. The weather was so good, he told me, that he loaded up on nonacademic classes - sailing, swimming, scuba diving. He focused his intellectual energies on interesting projects rather than actual course work.”</p>

<p>[Wired</a> 13.08: The Birth of Google](<a href=“The Birth of Google | WIRED”>The Birth of Google | WIRED)</p>

<p>Definitely consider University of Maryland, College Park. I believe last year on their website they said they were #1 and MIT was #2 (I don’t know what ranking system they used --and I could be confusing computer science with math, but I think it was computer science). For a kid with strong scores and less strong ECs he would be highly regarded as a candidate for UM.</p>

<p>Computer Science rankings from Gourman Report:
MIT
Carnegie Mellon
UC Berkeley
Cornell
U Illinois
UCLA
Yale
Caltech
U Texas Austin
Wisconsin
Maryland College Park
Princeton
u Washington
USC
SUNY Stony Brook
Brown
Georgia Tech
U penn
U Rochester
NYU
Minnesota
U Utah
Columbia</p>

<p>Just wondering - which programs are best for someone who wants to go to grad school in CS, and which are more focused on preparing students for employment after graduation?</p>

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<p>They also went somewhere else for high schools, it had nothing to do with their undergrad education.</p>

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<p>This must be a list from 100 years ago, before Stanford was born.</p>

<p>The above Gourman rankings are for undergraduate. The problem with Stanford is that it is very much oriented toward graduate students. The Gourman Report lists Stanford as #2 among graduate programs.</p>

<p>While you have Eric Roberts, who wrote four books on the subjects, teaches you the very basic computer programming courses at Stanford, you have a fresh Ph.D. from Cal to teach you advanced topics at undergrad level at one of the top ten schools you listed. Gourman rankings must be based on some secret information not known to anyone.</p>

<p>Yeh, Gourman Ranking lost its mind in computer science ranking. Any ranking not putting Stanford as #1 in computer science is doubtful.</p>

<p>Stanford has contributed more to computer science and information technology than any other place in the world, has won more Turing awards than any other place in the world, and has founded more famous IT companies than any other place in the world.</p>

<p>“Just wondering - which programs are best for someone who wants to go to grad school in CS, and which are more focused on preparing students for employment after graduation?”</p>

<p>You might have to break that down by MS vs PhD. At some schools, like Brown, a one year Master’s program is offered in that department, so most anyone interested has that option if they meet criteria. At graduation, some kids were going for that 1 year MS but we also had many more kids going to Microsoft-- I couldn’t believe it. Some of the 1 yr MS students do apply for PhD after, though. For PhD programs, I’d say schools that offer a lot of accessible opportunities to get research done is important as that is a extremely important criteria for PhD acceptance. I know Brown funds undergrad research too, my daughter had awards for 2 summers, so look for schools where that is offered.</p>

<p>Stanford Comp Sci is only 35% undergraduates. It is a good place for grad school but not necessarily undergrad.</p>

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What about MIT and Cal? 100% is better? My local community college offers 100% for CS undegrad education. Is that better?</p>

<p>Here is 2005 - 2006 Starting Salaries for Engineering Graduates At Stanford</p>

<p><a href=“http://mathacle.blogspot.com/2009/06/2005-2006-starting-salaries-for.html[/url]”>http://mathacle.blogspot.com/2009/06/2005-2006-starting-salaries-for.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>During that year period, you got, on average, 8 job offers if you graduated with a Computer Science BS degree, and 24 offers for a MS degree. Yes, their MS program is the best, but that does not mean their BS program is bad.</p>

<p>Looking for current list for computer science schools. My son takes mostly AP courses, strong in math and science, about 2000 on SAT test. suggestions?</p>

<p>For what it’s worth, my son ended up applying to MIT, CMU, Cornell, RIT, Drexel, RPI, WPI, and Northeastern. He was rejected by MIT, waitlisted by CMU and accepted everywhere else, with the most generous merit aid offers from Northeastern & Drexel (full tuition) based on his National Merit finalist status. He decided to matriculate at Cornell where he receives generous need-based financial aid.</p>

<p>Thanks is he happy there?</p>