<p>i am a bit biased, but here's my ranking:</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale/Penn</li>
<li>Dartmouth/Princeton</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Cornell/Brown</li>
</ol>
<p>Ranking methodology.. well, I ranked schools with the most $$ for research/medicine and stuff. Also, by reading the brochures, i feel that some schools expose undergrads a lot more to research stuff.</p>
<p>If this is not an Ivy forum, I would put in WUStL and Duke near Yale. :)</p>
<p>My ranking for sciences/medicine/research is:</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard/Cornell</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>UPenn/Columbia/Yale/Brown</li>
<li>Dartmouth </li>
</ol>
<p>Minus Harvard and Cornell though, the Ivy Leagues would be not be very good in sciences/medicine/research.</p>
<p>How so? I thought Yale and Penn were great in sciences/medicine/research.. hm</p>
<p>no, yale is terrible in the sciences
they are currently allotting a TON of money to the sciences, but they are still catching up with harvard and columbia</p>
<p>I have to put Princeton at #1...princeton has the best research opportunities in math and science. Then: </p>
<p>Harvard
Columbia
Yale
Penn
Cornell
Brown/Dartmouth</p>
<p>i dont see how you can put Dartmouth and Brown above Cornell in terms of research...Cornell has much more resources and opportunities for this</p>
<p>Cornell has the second best engineering dept of the ivies, and it is first or second in most science disciplines for the ivies. </p>
<p>I don't understand why Cornell is considered to be so "low" in the east coast. Us west coasters consider Cornell to be above Brown and Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Speak for yourself! I'm from the West Coast, and I definitely stick Cornell @ the bottom of the Ivy heap (which is not to say it's bad).</p>
<p>^ Where did u go to school? I went to Berkeley. The perception is that Cornell is quite a good school because of their focus on academic research. Most of the people I know have not heard of Brown or Dartmouth.</p>
<p>BTW in case you haven't noticed, this ranking is based on science/medicine/research. Yes, you either did not notice, or do not know much about research reputations of the ivies.</p>
<p>Cornell should definitely be above Brown...regarding Dartmouth, it depends what career you want to go into...Dartmouth has a better alumni network and better recruiting for business, which might not mean anything to you if you're interested in research and science, in which case you should go to cornell...everything works out.</p>
<p>Wait, did you just say that Cornell has the second best engineering in the ivy league?
I dont agree with this at all. If there is ONE area where CU blows away every ivy hands down, it is engineering. The other schools put nowhere near the amount of money and attention towards engineering that cornell does. This is why we are the highest ranked engineering school in the ivies. Period. It's also why our engineering department beats out everyone else in terms of new research breakthroughs, and also why our engineering student teams wipe the floor with the competition in every contest we enter. Our only east coast engineering competitors are MIT, CMU, and GaTech.</p>
<p>aren't brown and dartmouth like small liberal arts? (I know for a fact that dartmouth is the size of cornell's north campus ALONE) so how are they science and research powerhouses?</p>
<p>The people making these "rankings" are obviously clueless. For sciences/engineering, Cornell is one of the best. If you're looking at med school, according to USnews, the order of the ivies is approximately:</p>
<p>Harvard
U Penn
Columbia/Cornell/Yale
GAP
Brown
GAP
Dartmouth
(Princeton has none)</p>
<p>and for engineering, Cornell is ranked 10, above P'ton at 11, and far above all of the other ivies.</p>
<p>I could post more, but there is no point arguing with such uninformed people.</p>
<p>My rankings
1. Cornell
2. Cornell
3. Cornell
4. Cornell
5. Cornell
6. Cornell
7. Cornell
8. Cornell</p>
<p>The only reason why i rejected top institutions such as Columbia University and 7 year medical programs is because Cornell is the best in research and sciences. Since i don't attend other ivies, i can't rank them. But i am sure of one thing. I would not trade Cornell for any other University!</p>
<p>
yeah, in their recent curriculum evaluation yale finally realized their students should probably be getting a better science education</p>
<p>columbia SEAS isn't as good as people make it out to be & cornell definitely has really great science</p>
<p>I don't get this. Is it me, or did this thread start out in Harvard (or some other Ivy board), then get moved over here to the Cornell boards? That would explain why everyone ranked Cornell at the bottom until the most recent posts....I may just be crazy though...</p>
<p>Anyway, my rankings in terms of science/research/medicine:</p>
<p>Princeton
Cornell
Harvard
Penn
Columbia
Brown
Yale
Dartmouth</p>
<p>I agree with perro 100%. Since when was CU #2 in engineering? </p>
<p>Im not being a fanboy, its just engineering seems like the only thing CU excels at and it should be recognized.</p>
<p>cornell should be up there for sciences and research. It also looks really good if you manage to pull a good gpa from cornell if you're premed.
I don't understand how so many of these people can list cornell at the bottom. I think they are ranking the school more on prestige rather than the actually topic at hand.</p>
<p>Personally i believe that yale is stronger in the liberal arts and so i brown. (Although you might be able to do some research at yale's med school, which i might add is great :) ) I do not know anything about upenn. Harvard offers alot of research, but from what i gather many of the professors are aloof. Cornell really strong in the sciences.</p>
<p>hnbui, don't you post on SDN too? hahah, cool cool</p>
<p>hey yeah i do :) glad you recgonize me. I think i remember you name too. Did you asked a question about your boyfriend or sister chances at med school once?</p>
<p>haha, no, my boyfriend's already in med school. i am an only child. i have asked about my own chances though at mount sinai. glad i didn't get in because now i am learning a lot more about med schools than i ever did before. g'luck w/transferring. my friend's new roommate this year (she lives next to me) was a transfer from wellesley.</p>