<p>Golubb, I support statements with facts. I suggest you try the same. Your diatribes are tiring.</p>
<p>P.S. Vaib was not able to produce a more thoroughly researched survey or ranking, can you?</p>
<p>These rankings were done by a group of firms within the field. While I think rankings are overgeneralized and biased, some people seem to think that they are the only "proof" that some schools have better programs than others. Here's the rankings, with an overall rankings category and three other specialized categories.</p>
<p><a href="http://capd.ksu.edu/top_ten.asp%5B/url%5D">http://capd.ksu.edu/top_ten.asp</a></p>
<p>Bachelor of Architecture
Cornell University
University of Cincinnati
Rice University
California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Syracuse University
Kansas State University
Rhode Island School of Design
University of Texas at Austin
Carnegie Mellon University
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
University of Oregon
Iowa State University
Illinois Institute of Technology (tie)
Pennsylvania State University (tie)
University of Minnesota (tie)
Bachelor of Interior Architecture/Design</p>
<p>University of Cincinnati
Pratt Institute
Kansas State University
Cornell University
Arizona State University
University of Oregon
Auburn University
University of Texas at Austin (tie)
Washington State University (tie)
California College of the Arts (tie)
University of Florida (tie)</p>
<p>Bachelor of Landscape Architecture</p>
<p>Ohio State University
University of Georgia
Kansas State University
Pennsylvania State University
Louisiana State University
Cornell University
Purdue University
California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo (tie)
Michigan State University (tie)
Ball State University (tie)
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona (tie)
Iowa State University (tie)
University of Massachusetts (tie)
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
Mississippi State University</p>
<p>Master of Landscape Architecture</p>
<p>Harvard University
University of Pennsylvania
University of California, Berkeley
Louisiana State University (tie)
University of Georgia (tie)
University of Virginia
Cornell University
Kansas State University (tie)
University of Michigan (tie)
Ohio State University
California State Polytechnic University, Pomona (tie)
North Carolina State University (tie)
University of Massachusetts (tie)
Auburn University
Rhode Island School of Design</p>
<p>Hoo, your reference site mentions no criteria except the following:</p>
<p>"According to its sponsors, this survey is the only such study of its kind for the design disciplines and can be used, along with other considerations, to help current and future students plan their educational paths"
"K-States bachelor of interior architecture/design and bachelor of landscape architecture programs ranked third"</p>
<p>Landscape architecture? </p>
<p>You can get in some of the top ten schools on that list with 500 SAT scores.
Keep trying, maybe you'll find something credible!</p>
<p>"Each year, DesignIntelligence and the Design Futures Council conduct the study, in conjunction with the Almanac of Architecture and Design, to determine the best colleges and universities for architecture and interior architecture/design in the United States. Principals of over 1000 leading U.S. firms are asked to indicate which accredited programs in the past five years produced graduates most prepared for real-world practice." </p>
<p>I find it odd that when a ranking doesn't include Princeton, you get upset. If you read carefully, you would have noticed that the firm made an overall ranking for architecture, making Cornell #1. Landscape architecture is only one category, and I understand that many university's don't have landscape architecture. Therefore, they were not included in that category. As I mentioned before, I think rankings are overgeneralized and biased. The ranking that I provided definitely seems shady, as does yours. Your ranking is extremely biased, and not nearly as objective as they need be. While you claim that there's more to your ranking that "the research atmosphere" of a university, it's not clearly stated on the website. </p>
<p>"Some of the responses here do not reflect a reading of the criteria and effort that went into the ratings."</p>
<p>How do you know that?</p>
<p>I think your pretentious attitude shone through in your last post:</p>
<p>"Landscape architecture? </p>
<p>You can get in some of the top ten schools on that list with 500 SAT scores.
Keep trying, maybe you'll find something credible!"</p>
<p>That statement is extremely hyperbolic. Almost every college in The United States wouldn't accept a 500 SAT. Even CCs would reject people with 500 SAT scores. Just look on the admissions requirements for each of the universities mentioned, and you will find that all of them at least require SATs above an 800(and that probably wouldn't make it in). Admissions does not always equate to the best architecture program. Duh!!</p>
<p>Also, what's your problem with landscape architecture? That's an extremely honorable profession! Maybe Princeton is too snobby to participate in this interesting and innovative career, but people at Harvard don't seem to mind.</p>
<p>"The ranking that I provided definitely seems shady"</p>
<p>We finally agree!</p>
<p>Just as I suspected, it was a mass mailing, not a study.</p>
<p>If only you could agree that your ranking is a load of crap and not a fact, also! Mainly because Princeton isn't <em>that</em> great at architecture.</p>
<p>Hoo, Do you understand the difference between a "mass mailing" and a "researched study"?</p>
<p>YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT THIS IS A MASS-MAILING!! Geez! Just because you dislike it doesn't mean that it's wrong. The rankings you provided were very subjective, too.</p>
<p>How can you promote a poll without reading the criteria? Dah!</p>
<p>alphacdcd...the wall st. journal had a MBA rating which had Michigan as the best MBA program in the nation, and Harvard as 13th. It's poll claimed to be totally scientific, like the poll you are going around promoting, but in reality there are serious flaws that result in it giving a totally inaccurate guide to which programs it proposes are the best. </p>
<p>Everybody in their right mind knows that Cornell has the best program for undergraduates, and schools like Harvard and MIT offer leading programs in architecture as well. We are not going to let you shove this ranking down our throats and mercilessly accept its verdict.</p>
<p>All I am saying is don't shoot from the hip. Put the criteria out for all to see. And please, at the very least, look at the criteria before promoting the survey.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.di.net/article.php?article_id=371%5B/url%5D">http://www.di.net/article.php?article_id=371</a>
alphacdcd,
here is the link describing how design intelligence ranks these programs. Perhaps this will help you understand their process and elivate some discomfort you seem to have for their rankings. And relax and loosen up. Rankings are not the end all for every program</p>
<p>Thank you. The criteria confirms what I suspected.</p>
<p>Hi! Sorry to bother, but which of these top ranked programs puts the least emphasis/time on liberal arts? Which of these programs would be more technology-oriented? Thanks!</p>
<p>This link has a list of rankings and may prove to be helpful in solving this conflict lol
But, really, does Cornell U have the best School of Architecture? And, does this make it te hardest to get into?
The</a> Top U.S. Architecture Schools</p>
<p>I wonder why a school like cooper union isn't ranked...</p>
<p>I have always had major problems with di--- and I would bet the main reason that Cooper isn't ranked is that it doesn't cater to corporate firms, which are basically the firms making the rating...</p>
<p>the list on the website is so inaccurate. It obviously ranks by prestige, most definitely not best architecture schools. </p>
<p>For example, Upenn’s architecture is in its College of Arts and Sciences, it doesnt even have its own separate architecture school. Wash U. on the other hand, has the Sam Fox School of design and visual arts, its architecture is ranked way up there.</p>
<p>Some of the best architecture schools are, for undergrad and grad:
Washington University in St. Louis, Rice, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, Cal Poly SLO, Cooper Union, Yale, and more, these are the ones I have heard of and am sure that they are some of the top.</p>