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ouch. Where did s/he go?
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<p>MIT... lol.</p>
<p>@Dbate: I don't mean to start a whole debate on AA and hijack the thread, but I feel that I must take issue with your assertion that they are equally qualified. If that were the case, then why would affirmative action be necessary?</p>
<p>Ha, I like this.
Can you do this for students ONLY applying to Ross? (UofM- Ann Arbor)
And if you have time, Duke, G-town, Vandy, and UVa would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks =]</p>
<p>It is easy to calculate the average SAT1 for the accepted candidates at many universities from their admission statistics.
For Brown it is
CR: 717
MA: 723
WR: 713
Total: 2153</p>
<p>Range Lo/ Range Hi/ Average / Accepted number / Total of all accepted</p>
<p>800 800 800 474 379200<br>
750 790 770 566 435820<br>
700 740 720 647 465840<br>
650 690 670 407 272690<br>
600 640 620 241 149420<br>
550 590 570 118 67260<br>
500 550 525 61 32025 </p>
<pre><code> 716.8874304
</code></pre>
<p>800 800 800 458 366400<br>
750 790 770 641 493570<br>
700 740 720 669 481680<br>
650 690 670 414 277380<br>
600 640 620 205 127100<br>
550 590 570 85 48450<br>
500 550 525 42 22050 </p>
<pre><code> 722.6054097
</code></pre>
<p>800 800 800 307 245600<br>
750 790 770 629 484330<br>
700 740 720 725 522000<br>
650 690 670 450 301500<br>
600 640 620 224 138880<br>
550 590 570 121 68970<br>
500 550 525 51 26775 </p>
<pre><code> 713.2249701
</code></pre>
<p>What you did was calculate the average individual scores, you can't add them up, per se. But it's still a pretty good method.</p>
<p>Could you do vanderbilt too</p>
<p>Here is Stanford
Total Applicants: 23958 </p>
<p>CR:
Lo/ Hi / Average / % applied / Num appl / % Accept / Num Acc/ T Score<br>
800 800 800 9.2 2204 23 506 404800<br>
700 790 745 36.6 8768 14.1 1236 920820<br>
600 690 645 36.9 8840 8.4 742 478590<br>
500 590 545 13.5 3234 4.9 158 86110<br>
400 500 450 3.8 910 1.2 10 4500 </p>
<p>Average CR: 714</p>
<p>MATH:<br>
800 800 800 15.2 3641 16.7 608 486400<br>
700 790 745 44.3 10613 11.9 1262 940190<br>
600 690 645 29.4 7043 9.6 676 436020<br>
500 590 545 9 2156 5.1 109 59405<br>
400 500 450 2.1 503 0.9 4 1800 </p>
<p>Average Math: 723</p>
<p>WR:<br>
800 800 800 5.9 1413 26.1 368 294400<br>
700 790 745 38.6 9247 14.7 1359 1012455
600 690 645 38.4 9199 8.5 781 503745<br>
500 590 545 13.8 3306 4.5 148 80660<br>
400 500 450 3.4 814 1.1 8 3600 </p>
<p>Average Writing: 711</p>
<p>Total : 2148</p>
<p>Here is MIT
Total Applicant: 12445 </p>
<p>CR
LO / Hi / Average / Num applied / Accepted / Total<br>
750 800 775 2811 604 468100<br>
700 740 720 2406 359 258480<br>
650 690 670 2197 300 201000<br>
600 640 620 1539 165 102300<br>
550 590 570 879 52 29640<br>
500 540 520 988 27 14040 </p>
<p>Average CR: 712</p>
<p>Math<br>
750 800 775 5805 996 771900<br>
700 740 720 2436 335 241200<br>
650 690 670 1460 139 93130<br>
600 640 620 596 30 18600<br>
550 590 570 328 7 3990<br>
500 540 520 195 0 0 </p>
<p>Average Math: 749</p>
<p>Total (CR + M): 1461/1600</p>
<p>This is the average for accepted students, right?
What about for attending students? Do you think that those score would be somewhat lower for most of the colleges?</p>
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I am not sure. My guess is if there were an exorbitant amount of URMs and recruited athletes, the average would be lower.
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<p>Not possible. This forum is probably 90% to 95% Asian or White. On top of that most members on here are wealthy, so the scores probably should be higher.</p>
<p>Yes, it is for accepted students, matriculated students average should be lowered.</p>
<p>meadow36:
With your attitude, you will probably botch your college applications. </p>
<p>Your SAT score is something that will help colleges decide whether or not you are qualified for admission. No, they do not use it to rank applicants either. The whole "more qualified/less qualified" metric is a CC myth. To colleges, whether or not an applicant is qualified is a boolean meaning they are either qualified or they are not. Once you become qualified it is subjective things like leadership ability, passion, character, etc. that decide whether or not an applicant is accepted.</p>
<p>Judging from your attitude in your post you seem to be oblivious to how college admissions really work. I am merely trying to save you from screwing yourself over--though I would not mind it if you did since you seem to be displaying a certain level of ignorance about affirmative action that Ivy League students should not. I would suggest that in addition to becoming more informed about the use of SAT scores in the college admissions process that you also spend some time becoming more informed about affirmative action and how it is used in college admissions today at school like Harvard--and watch your tone.</p>
<p>P.S.
I don't really mean to rip into you too much but watch what you say. You wouldn't say, "yeah, so I think that in order to realistic, it would be necessary to weed out URMs and recruited athletes or any other special case. That way we could be realistic on good/bad our SAT scores really are to these colleges," in real life, would you? It's a distasteful comment and would be taken as prejudiced by many. Everyone who gets into Harvard, Princeton, etc. deserves to be there--that isn't to say they aren't lucky to be there either.</p>
<p>PBailey. They obviously are equally qualifed, i don't have the actually statistics, but from anecdote the grauation rate at top schools for minorities. Was in the 90s. Also the reason AA was implemented, was bc minorities were who were qualified were being rejected. It is a vestige of an older era. But moreso i stand by what i said in that minorities are equally qualified. Every minority that i have ever heard of get into good schools (Duke, Yale, Princeton) were qualified. Duke was number 5 in class at my school, my cousins was number 2, and the one who got into Princeton was 15 in class with a 2400, but I don't know the SAT score for the other ones. Now if a white person were number 15 i their class and had a 2400 would you say they were underqualified? But if you saw the black guy who got in you assume he was underqualified,?</p>
<p>Just to add a quick note on URM. Affirmative action exists because less URM apply in the first place, so a larger percent of the applicants must be admitted to create a balanced class. Actually, I’m pretty sure that the average URM is <em>more</em> qualified than the average applicant. In general, less URMs apply to top schools for the sake of it than other people, so those that do apply are generally very qualified to attend the schools.</p>
<p>Thanks Star*, ppl hear more blacks get accepted and feel that somehow it means they aren't qualified ridiculus.</p>
<p>It's not really about having a "balanced" class--some people will take that to mean quotas. It's about having a diverse class--in terms of race/ethnicity, class, geography, gender, etc. </p>
<p>The whole it being about leveling the playing field or making up for slavery is pure nonsense and is the sort of divisive rhetoric that staunch anti/pro-affirmative action advocates use to stir up support for their cause.</p>
<p>@NewJack
Okay, I apologize for my comment. After re-reading it again I realize how it is very offensive to many. But, by no means was I saying that any person at the elite universities are there solely because of their SAT scores. I understand that every person there is deserving and are there for a variety of reasons that made up their application. However, some people like me might view these averages so they see how they stack up, and by averaging all the scores it might give a slightly distorted view, because not everyone has those slight advantages. The suggestion was meant to be mild but I will be more careful with what I post. Thanks for pointing it out. :)</p>
<p>meadow36:</p>
<p>Thanks for seeing the other side. Best of luck with the whole application process.</p>