<p>jaf1991 look carefully at those programs, how they are defined, and their implications. We have looked little at this, but we have looked at the UVM honors program, [Frequently</a> Asked Questions : About the Honors College : The Honors College at UVM : University of Vermont](<a href=“http://www.uvm.edu/honorscollege/?Page=FAQnew.html&SM=aboutmenu.html]Frequently”>http://www.uvm.edu/honorscollege/?Page=FAQnew.html&SM=aboutmenu.html). (Its on my daughter’s list as her current preferred safety, i.e., the school where she is most above the average student and hence the most likely to get merit aid or get into the honors program.) UVM admits those honors applicants <em>IT</em>, not the high school, ranks as about the top 5% (100 of the applicants out of about 2000 students) of the admitted freshman class. After the first year it admits those applicants roughly corresponding to the top 5% not already in the program. Note however that the top 5% of their freshman class is likely to be about the top couple of a percent of a typical high school class.</p>