<p>What is the procedure for reapplying if you don't get in the first time? What are the chances of getting in the second time around? Thanks</p>
<p>The exact same. With the exception of DoDMERB...you only have to sign a paper saying you're still in good health.</p>
<p>If you go to college and do well the first sememster (As and Bs) you should be fine. If you go to a school with NROTC, get in it. Do anything you can to strengthen your application. Talk to your BGO and try to identify and weak spots you had.</p>
<p>Good Luck and Godspeed!</p>
<p>My son was accepted to the Air Force Academy, but in his heart Navy has always been his dream. He was accepted academically and physically by the navy, but had a waiver pending because of a shoulder injury. Air force and Army waived it, and Army had him on the wait list. We're thinking it must have had something to do with the shoulder that he didn't get in base on the fact that he was accepted everyother way. He has in the end, decided to go to Norwich University in the NROTC program. After having considered everything, and as much as he loved air force, he still feels navy is right for him. He's hoping to have the shoulder issue taken care of now, and hopefully that wouldn't be an issue anymore with dodmerb.</p>
<p>Yay Norwich!!! My brother didn't get into USMA (don't know why, not DoDMERB), and he's at Norwich and loves it--be prepared to do lots of stairs on Parent Weekend. And sent him lots of boxes of stuff, because freshman hardly ever get off campus -- and there's not a whole lot up there. His sophomore year has been more mobile, and he loves it. Congrats to him!</p>
<p>Thank you marmadillo, I'll pass that on to him, and thanks for the other info, it's good to know. I'm sure he will love it there. He already stayed there a weekend in the fall and really enjoyed it. Thanks again.</p>
<p>Also, teacher recommendations from the previous year will convey. As soon as one opens up a new application for a subsequent year, the file from the previous year will be pulled forward. A single recommendation from a college professor will probably be required and if one is NROTC then a recommendation from the commanding officer is also requested. Not sure about your state, but it is likely that your MOC nomination forms may be streamlined as well (e.g. HS teacher recommendations may convey etc. but read the instructions for each MOC to be sure.)</p>
<p>As far as teacher recs go, use your senior year teachers. I used my junior year teachers my first time around, and simply updated to senior teachers my second time. Unless you go to a small university where you can actually get to know the Prof., it will be difficult to get a good rec from one.</p>
<p>With the NROTC rec, they don't request it, but if you don't take advantage of that, you might as well shoot yourself in the foot. It is required for the NROTC nomination, though. Even if you don't have the scholarship, I strongly suggest doing the college program. A friend of mine did that for the fall and winter quarters, and was awarded the scholarship two weeks ago.</p>
<p>Just remember to kick a$$ next year so you can blow the admissions board away.</p>
<p>oixxg, hopeful, and DMeix:
Your packet from say this year's application does not convey to the next go around.<br>
Don't know who provided you that gouge but each new year is a new application packet (there are those we know are resubmits, but we are provided only information).<br>
Yes, some candidates that reapply just provide the old information but I do not suggest that you do the same.
I STRONGLY encourage you to get fresh recommendations from college professors if you plan to reapply. (There is nothing worse than seeing something dated a year or more ago).
The nomination committees do not view year+ old recommendations in the same light as current ones. Remember that you have matured since the Fall semester of your Senior year, and we want to see how you are performing under a rigorous college course load (16-18+ credit hours to include Calc, Chem, Eng, etc as well as maintaining volunteer service, clubs, and physical activities). The Academy is looking for the well-rounded package!
Hope that this answers your questions.
Best of Luck!</p>
<p>cadetmom : You misunderstood my remarks above. I am refering only to teacher recommendations. And my information is accurate as of last year (first hand experience!)</p>
<p>Yes, it is an entirely new application. Last year USNA informed prior applicants AFTER the new application was opened that 1) DODMERB is good for 2 years and doesn't have to be re-done and 2) teacher recommendations from H.S. are on file and should not be re-submitted. It's not considered "old news" -- your H.S. teachers probably knew you much better than a college professor who has only had you for a month or two (assuming you are applying in the Fall). The USNA letter my kid received last year made it very clear that the H.S. teacher recommendations were on file and only one college professor recommendation should be submitted. As always: FOLLOW DIRECTIONS. If the rules have changed this year they will tell you, but slamming them with recommendations they didn't ask for isn't such a great idea either.</p>
<p>All the other information on the new application is filled in again and should include any updates. College transcripts from the first semester and possibly even a mid-semester report for Spring semester will be required. There are some exceptions, but most college applicants, whether prior applicants or not, don't hear a decision until fairly late in the game (March/April).</p>
<p>Apologies for the confusion! </p>
<p>There are two things going on at once:
Formal USNA Application requirements
Request and required paperwork for a Senate/Congressional Nomination </p>
<p>I'm looking at it from the "securing a nomination" point of view, and that is an absolute necessity BEFORE your package can go before the Admission's Board for selection.</p>
<p>Nomination boards see the complete packet (transcripts, SAT scores, PFA, and all recommendations - both sealed and unsealed) and I can attest to the fact that old recommendations were viewed if included in the new packet. What was discouraging was seeing just that, "the old packet of information", with no new additions. (And I agree, more is NOT better, it's quality that counts!)
When the members discuss a candidate we want to see what the they have accomplished after graduation from high school; what is their motivation for reapplying and how they have challenged themselves (course load, major, GPA, physical preparation, clubs, sports, community/volunteer activities) providing us the most current snapshot.
Just because an applicant is a college freshman doesn't mean their profs can't get to know them. The challenge is to develop that relationship.</p>
<p>just fyi:</p>
<p>one of my firsties completed his plebe year at usafa, but was accepted to and came to annapolis because it was what he really wanted. he had to do plebe year over. he really wanted this.</p>
<p>The guy is demented. Help him if you can.</p>
<p>TWO Plebe Years? Yikes! :eek:</p>
<p>cripes...and my shipmates in the ROTC unit are giving me crap about having to repeat freshman year should I go to USNA.</p>
<p>Honestly, that's the last thing I'm concerned about. Two freshman years would totally be worth it.</p>
<p>lol its not quite "freshman year". it's plebe year and there's a hell of a difference. 30 days to herndon!</p>