<p>How long does it take for UMich to send you your audition date? I just recieved notification that my app was completed today and I was curious how long I would have to wait to find out if I got an audition for not.</p>
<p>My S completed his application on-line on November 1 and was notified that he received his 1st choice of audition dates on November 15 (he auditions in Ann Arbor on Jan 19). Since November 1 was an early deadline and probably not as many people submitted applications then, it might take a little longer now.</p>
<p>Yay! Got mine today (Feb 9)!
Can anyone comment on the dance portion of the audtion? That's the part I'm most worried about...</p>
<p>I still havent gotten my audition date...and my application was sent in a month ago :-(...
I e-mailed the school and they said that probably it hasnt all been processed...i need to get a date though, because im coming from so far , i have so many connection flights to make...and university of michigan is the only audition date that i dont have confirmed :-(</p>
<p>Kayla, my daughter's application was 'officially' submitted on 11/18. They sent out an e-mail on 12/20, and a snail-mail letter dated 12/19 that she'd been 'invited' for an audition and approved for her requested audition date for Chicago Unifieds. So it takes a full month.</p>
<p>Hey, teriwtt and everyone! A question for those of you auditioning for Michigan (or who have kids auditioning for Michigan): are people "invited" to audition based on their application/grades, etc.? In other words, am I correct in saying that Michigan vets kids on paper ahead of time and then those who pass the bar (vis a vis grades, scores, etc.) are then told that they can audition? If so, that seems to me a very civilized approach! Better to know if you pass their standards academically first before auditioning. I have heard that, at some schools, a kid might audition and the school might want them based on artistic standards, but then they end up rejected because of grades, etc.</p>
<p>Hi Lisa, yes, Michigan requires the academic application and supplemental musical theatre form to be complete before 'OK'ing your requested audition date (they refer to it as an invitation). So if this one of a students' top choices, I'd get going on that U Mich application as a top priority next summer/fall. They do not use the Common Application, and they have several short answer/essay type questions. From what I recall, a 'complete' application includes all test scores, recommendations (additionally, Michigan requires a music/arts-related teacher recommendation for the School of Music), counselor forms, transcripts, etc. that you would normally submit to any college. They then extend this invitation only after the application has been reviewed by both the Office of Undergraduate Admissions and the School of Music, Theatre and Dance. </p>
<p>My guess is that the academic review is only to narrow down applicants for audition. The Office of Undergraduate Admissions probably has a somewhat lower standard for a preliminary approval for performing arts students, but it's still competitive, and no one skates by. That way, if they find a student who is enormously talented, but is borderline in the academic area (by Michigan's standards), they will authorize the audition anyway. If the same application came in for another school at Michigan, a student might not be given another chance to prove their talent/skills.</p>
<p>From my daughter's perspective, Michigan and NYU are the most academically competitive schools she's applying to, and both places consider academics very seriously. You can't be academically average, with lots of talent and get into these schools. CMU is another school that is academically tough, but since we didn't consider it, I don't know what process they use to weed out those who aren't an academic fit for them.</p>
<p>I am in the process of putting together some data that could be helpful for rising junior students/parents, and when it's done, I'll post it. When my older daughter was applying to schools, as a preliminary tool, we used the Princeton Review reports to narrow down schools. Three criteria we looked at were the admissions selectivity rating, academic rating, and average GPA of accepted applicants. So I've taken the 30 schools that are listed in this forum and collected this information. At a glance, it breaks down where schools fall as far as academic selectivity goes and gives rising students a glimpse of where they might fit well.</p>
<p>NotMamaRose, as Teriwtt said, UMichigan reviews the application materials and invites students to audition and thus not everyone who applies gets that invitation. I recall about 350 get the invitation to audition. This is not the same as at SOME schools that separate out academic and BFA acceptances. For instance, at Point Park, Marymount Manhattan, and some other schools, one can be admitted academically before they ever audition. At UMichigan, you don't get an ACCEPTANCE to UMich, but rather, you make a "cut" academically to be invited to audition. If you don't get into the BFA, it is not like you then have been accepted to the university itself or anything. This is like a preliminary cut so that they don't bother to audition kids who will definitely not be admissable academically speaking. However, I am sure that once the BFA program is interested in a student after the audition, the application materials are scrutinized further as there are surely more talented kids than spots available. </p>
<p>Like teriwtt's D, the two most academically selective schools on my D's list were NYU and UMich. However, CMU is an academically selective school that she also applied to. HOWEVER, unlike at NYU and UMich, CMU only weighs academics 10% of the admissions decision and the audition counts for 90% of the decision. However, applicants should not take that to mean that academics do not count there, as they do. CMU's program is small and so when they are deciding between a handful of finalists, it sure helps to have a good application and qualifications. Academics will matter even more at NYU (50% of the decision) and at UMich, which also are more selective universities overall than a large number of the schools in which BFA programs exist. NYU as a university (not the BFA), for example, has an acceptance rate of 29%. </p>
<p>Teriwtt, the factors you mention in terms of determining one's chances academically at a school are important. There are a few things to look at.....the acceptance rate (percentage of applicants admitted), the mid 50% range of SAT (or ACT) scores of admitted students, the avg. GPA of admitted students, the percentage of the admitted students who were in the top 10%, top 25%, and top 50% of their HS class, as well as the requisite HS courses to be admitted to that college (and the level of difficulty of the curriculum chosen in HS). Unfortunately, what I see SOME students or families do....is to just pick out schools or programs they like without regard to this very important aspect of their qualifications vis a vis the selectivity of the college itself. For instance, a student who has taken no Honors or AP classes, has a GPA of 2.9, has an SAT (CR/M combined) of 1000, and is ranked below the top 25% of their HS class should not bother to apply to a school like NYU. However, I have met several who have such a profile and then have schools like this on their list. Students need to build a college list that has reach, match and safety schools academically speaking and in the case of BFA applicants, add another layer of artistic selectivity.</p>
<p>Just got my date, February 9th:)</p>
<p>Still haven't received NYC audition date for Michigan and have been waiting for more than 6 weeks. Wow the Michigan application process is a tough one, makes every other one seem relatively easy.</p>
<p>Wow finally received my audition date for the NYC audition March 3, I had submitted my application the end of Nov. maybe they are swamped with applications. Anyway between the essay questions, repertoire list and the wait to find out if you get invited to an audition, this has been the most challenging application, By the time you get invited you feel honored. How easy it is in some other school where you simply pick an audition date. Wonder what the audition will be like. Anyone doing NYC on March 3rd?</p>
<p>My d plans to be there! I think she got the app in by mid-Nov. Some of those requests just seem to get ridiculous after awhile in terms of sheer volume. Congrats to those who actually finished!</p>
<p>anybody auditioning in chicago?</p>
<p>yep yep :-)</p>
<p>I was just wondering...do you have to play a piano piece? I havent played piano in a while, but i could still play one if necessary...i was just wondering if you definetly have to...</p>
<p>Johns Mom,
Has John received his acceptance yet?
I think he auditioned with my son's group.
And you DO have to play a piano piece -- not well or brilliantly. It's mostly to see if you can read music and to see where to "place" you, in piano I II or II. My son was told he'd go to Piano III and he's quite an AWFUL piano player!</p>
<p>My son is auditioning at Unifieds in Chicago for University of Miami and Webster University....I think he got the last date for that. He's also supposed to audition for Northern Illinois University but I don't think he likes the location of the school AT ALL. It is a kind of a pit of a town, but a nice program in straight drama.</p>
<p>Wait.
We were told that if our son didn't get into the BFA he WAS accepted to the University of Michigan on scores and grades and it would be fine for him to join another academic program there.
He was told this by the mentors at audition.
You seem to know a great deal about this, so perhaps we were given the wrong information.</p>
<p>On their website, or in some materials we got when our son went to MPulse, the summer program -- from which all 23 kids were expected to audition -- it said, "We all know that there are some people who are stronger artistically than academically..." BUT the general office of admissions made it really clear that NO BFA candidate would be invited to audition unless that person had the academic standards. Our son had both; and he got his acceptance letter to U of M before he got his invitation. He was invited to audition November 9 but was in a show and did audition, I believe, 19 January.</p>
<p>Dance: I don't know if our son got into the program, but he is not a dancer. However he is an athlete and has had some ballet. It's a ballet class, with a short (very short) combination at the end. They want to see how you move, not that you're Margot Fonteyn. Our friend Darryl Semira is strong and graceful and didn't have any formal dance training before he went to Michigan, and he went straight from Michigan to Broadway.</p>