Recruited Athletes

<p>Dartmouth is not the school that comes to mind when someone says "sports". I was wondering about recruited athletes and to what extent would Dartmouth go to get a good athlete. There is a kid at my school who is not a good student but a very good athlete, at least. I have heard that Dartmouth will give him a full ride if he can score a 1150 on his SAT's which just seems pretty bogus to me since although he is a great athlete, Dartmouth doesn't seem like they'd care too much about sports to reject another applicant who is much more qualified. This kid is not even going to stay in school and will graduate early after this semster. Wouldn't Dartmouth and other schools pretty much reject any applicant that does this? I guess I'm just curious to see how far Dartmouth would go to get an athlete who probably wouldn't last more than one semester at any school that isn't public. Thanks.</p>

<p>I know a bit about athletic recruitment at Dartmouth and the Ivies, but Dartmouth and Harvard are known to be the hardest school for athletes to gain admission to. I guess it depends more on the sport; for example, a 1250 might get you in for football, but not squash, tennis, or soccer.</p>

<p>Unlikely. 1) No athletic scholarships, even hidden ones. The early graduation thing isnt a factor though. It means he doubled up, the girl from my class who graduated early ended up at Princeton</p>

<p>All you need to graduate early is 28 courses. You can get a total of 32 in our system. We do the 4x4. So 8 each year. He didn't double up.</p>

<p>So Kim, are you saying that it is probably a BS rumor that can just get a 1150 and get a full ride?</p>

<p>what sport is he playing? I don't know... he might be able to get in for sports like football with 1150, given that he's one of the top recruits.</p>

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<li><p>There is no full ride because as Slipper stated Dartmouth does not give athletic or merit scholarships only scholarships which are based on financial need.</p></li>
<li><p>The Ivies have capped the number of athloetic recruits (see article)
<a href="http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004081201050&sheadline=&sauthor=&stext=athletes%20and%20admissions%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004081201050&sheadline=&sauthor=&stext=athletes%20and%20admissions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li>
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<p>The Dartmouth had the following article concerning the admission process and the various # of hooks including athletic</p>

<p><a href="http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004051301040&sheadline=&sauthor=&stext=athletes%20and%20admissions%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2004051301040&sheadline=&sauthor=&stext=athletes%20and%20admissions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<li><p>If you go to the old CC discussions under Dartmouth, athetics in the admisssions process was addressed there.</p>

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<li> if you go to the parents forum (under this CC) and look up the thread, Div 1 vs. better academics, you will get insight from the parents of recruited athletes at many elite schools including a Dartmouth parent of an 08 who was recruited for baseball (BTW, he had a 1500 on hhis SAT's)</li>
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<p>I would ask your friend if he has received a likely letter and a request to apply ED because recruited athletes received them in October.</p>

<p>So does that mean that anyone who has been in contact with a coach but did not receive a likely letter last month will not be tagged as an athlete?</p>

<p>Link to Div I sports or better academically</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=205%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=205&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Please READ THREAD. It will help with a lot of yor questions</p>

<p>Comment from one of the Parents of recruited athlete;</p>

<p>Different Levels of Recruitment </p>

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<p>It pays to differentiate levels of 'recruitment'.</p>

<p>Some tippy top athletes already have 'likely' letters from the admissions office, ie "we're likely to admit you". These are good enough to take to the bank.</p>

<p>Some athletes have many enthusiastic letters, phone calls and meetings from coaches. These can melt into air from what I've seen.</p>

<p>Though I never thought athletics would guarantee me a spot (I'm not that good), I thought it could help. Naive, I realize... Thanks for the info.</p>

<p>My S, a recruited Dartmouth student/athlete, hosted a prospective student/athlete several weeks ago, mid-October. He informed me recently that "his recruit" did not get in, in other words, the process of admissions already has unfolded (informally, I imagine, through some kind of "likely letter," there are various versions, some positive, some not so positive) for this recruit and the outcome is already known. I am reminded of something that Jim Mora, former football coach of the NO Saints once said in another context (to the press), "You think you know, but you really don't, and you never will." It's a rough business.</p>

<p>Casey,</p>

<p>Thanks for weighing in on this and giving a first hand perspective. Hope that your son is doing well.</p>

<p>how does your son know that "his recruit" will not get in?</p>

<p>I don't know how Casey's son knows that his "recruit" will not get in, but I can tell you that my son captained an athletic team and hosted many recruits. He usually got informal word whether the kid was a "go" or not long before the official decision was announced. Many times the coach or athletic director get a copy of the SAT and the transcript and have a pretty good idea who they can get through admissions. Or perhaps a better prospect has applied binding ED and they decided to grab him instead. And though the info should not be leaked, in reality, it sometimes is.</p>

<p>scary, scary process.</p>

<p>do you guys know any accepted recruited athletes at Dartmouth and their stats?</p>

<p>Kim,
You gotta move past the stat thing, because the stats are such a small part of the process. They take a lot of time and pride in bulding the dartmouth community. There are no minimum or cut-off scores, so everything else outside of how you did on a 3 hour test is going to be so much more meaningful in the process.</p>

<p>true, but coaches are telling me it has to do a lot with AI and academic cut offs, especially in the recruiting process. But I read your point.</p>

<p>i know a dartmouth crew recruit who had a 1310 and got in early. i also know two recruits applying this year, another with a 1310 and a second with a 1390. theyve both been told by the coach that they are pretty much guaranteed to get in. likely letters are actually very rare, and are really not required to ensure admission for recruits. kimfuge--youre right, the stats are a big part of it, the AI number that the teams get helps them chose between recruits and plays quite a bit into admissions</p>

<p>My S had a 1550 SAT, NMF, he got a likely letter because he was turning down a D-1 scholarship offer from a school that required he sign with them during the November early signing period for his sport, a month before he would get a formal acceptance letter from Dartmouth. With his stats, however, it was a no brainer, and we knew that. Every sport is different, every sport responds to the urgencies pressed upon them by their particular "market forces," and some coaches have more clout than others.</p>

<p>My S will be coming to Hanover all the way from Florida. Kind of scarey considering the drastic climate change! I am seeking advice on what he will need next year. Especially so since Christmas is days away!! Does Dartmouth send a list of "must haves" for the cold weather? We really don't need much more than a light jacket during our cold winter months! :-) The problem is, I don't have a clue about winter in the northeast. Any advice would be great, or maybe that will be coming in the school's mailing. (?)</p>