<p>and Texas, I believe.</p>
<p>premed, we all know that PE is hard, whcih is why cornell undergrad engineers getting PE offers is pretty unbelievable.</p>
<p>It is belivable, as I said before, it may not be top PE's, but they are still Pe's! Getting any PE job out of undergad is quite a feat and the only reason why they do recruit cornell engineers and engineers in general is because of their quant skills and Cornell is an Ivy with with the 11th best engineering school in the country. Also, you guys should check out the recruited student info on PE's and hedge funds (they mostly recruit at the same places)Check out their resumes or information and you will see that there are tons of kids from MIT who have engineering degrees that went into PE/IB/HF out of undergrad. Any top 25 school gets treated on an equal basis if you ask me. There are some schools which place more people into certain companies or industries, but overall any top 25 school, if executed properly (high GPA, Internship, interview, ambition....luck) can get you that job. I am a high school student and I am going to be interning probably for GS and I had no connections or anything. Yeah, I sure as hell got lucky, that one of the guys I talked to who was in charge of talent search or something knew what the AMC and AIME was and was impressed with the fact that I scored an 8 and ot honors. Anyways, when I went to talk to this guy, actually a group of people, I asked them whether or not GS cared about waht college you went to for analyst recruitment and the guy said yes, and they basically limited it to top 25 schools and some others. Now, if a top investment bank like GS says that they care about how well a person does and a top 25 degree, but mostly how well they do. If any of you want to know, I didn't even have a formal inetrview with the guy, I met him at an information session for business students at steven's Institute of Technology in Hoboken and tehy guy and his two other associates basically said yes and told me get a form for confidentiality or reliability or something basically, not to steal any of their work or sell it to another company or something, but I think I am going to intern at the WSJ instead because its a lot more interesting a lot more versatile for college. Anyways, getting back to subject, they recruit on several things: First apparently a top 25 or a top degree in general, next GPA, Next leadership, next work experience, next Quant skills, and last social skills. If anyone has any questions just PM me because I don't know if I will remember to look back at this post or not.</p>
<p>see premed, now that was a good, helpful post with reliable information.</p>
<p>how about stern compare to those -non-Wharton ivies?</p>
<p>I am not sure about consulting, but for Investment Banking and I can honestly say this because I went to NYU today, Stern is only Second to Wharton and maybe Harvard. In all seriousness, such a high percentage of kids get accepted that its definitely a feeder. After, Wharton, Harvard Econ, Nyu Stern, next is probably Umich Ross which sends 1/3 into investment banking and I believe 1/5 into consulting.</p>
<p>actually, on another thread, some person named grouchomarxists, who graduated from NYU (college not stern) and not works at BofA in trading, said that most NYU kids don't get the good ibanking jobs, most get audit, accouting, or 2nd/3rd tier consulting jobs.</p>
<p>I think since the guy s not from Stern, there must be a difference</p>
<p>my friend graduated from stern also, and he didn't get a top ibanking job and most of his friends didn't either.</p>
<p>what was his GPA? I think top 5% of students still get a good shot?</p>
<p>An important thing to consider on this board is the reliability of the posts and the posters. Many people have no experience in the field and most of what they write is regurgitated from others who have no experience. </p>
<p>My point is, take everything you read with a grain of salt. Don't let it deter you from your goals, only let it help you accomplish what you set out to do.</p>
<p>Are you guys on crack? Seriously, whoever said Stern kids don't get good jobs in I-Banking is lying or not seeing the whole truth. Anyways one of the students who was leading the tour when I went there two days ago, gave me the DL on Stern and Investment Banking and said mostly New York based IB's feind on Stern kids because they are really good and very close at hand. He said mainly JP Morgan, Citigroup, Bear Sterns, Jeffries and Company, Deutsche Bank....etc These banks may not be Elite , but they are at the the top and yes many people do get jobs at Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, oh and LEhamn brothers feinds on Stern kids too, I just remembered that. Anyways, NYU out of Undergrad is only second to Wharton if you ask me. Honestly, I have to say I didn't ask or hear much about Consulting Firms hiring Stern grads, but I am sure they do, but Sterns main focus is Ibanking mostly.</p>
<p>Stern is not second to Wharton, I'm pretty sure Harvard and most other ivies, Stanford,etc get recruited more. I'm not saying Stern is bad, because it's a great school and I'd love the chance to go there, but in general, only the top percentile of students, with WE and such, will get good ib jobs, most people won't.</p>
<p>ok,.,, a nooby question, what is WE?</p>
<p>sigh......</p>
<p>no need to bash posters.</p>
<p>grauchomarxist is a pretty reliable source. He never said Stern kids don't get IB jobs. He just said that stern kids and business majors in general aren't near as smart as math majors at courant (top math college) which is partly true. Econ. is a joke compared to math. What he was patronizing was the NYU Guaranteed admissions program.</p>
<p>Also Graucho is a trader right now. People in that area are usually math/physics majors as opposed to i-bankers who are econ./business admin. majors. The former have jobs that are far more intellectual than the latter (at least at the junior analyst position). So you should understand why he's bashing business majors when comparing them to math and other disciplines.</p>
<p>the thing is that I am pretty good at math so I think I can get in elite math school, but on the other hand that I am really interested in business area and want to do I-banking, so I think my first choice will be Wharton, but Wharton is very competitive so I cant say I can go there for sure, so I think Stern will be my second choice, but if what you say about math major is true, I will be facing a situation that I really wanna study business major but math will be a more practical path</p>
<p>epoch_dreams:</p>
<p>I was talking about Pre-medwannabe.</p>
<p>^Man, give up seriously, NYU is second only to Wharton out of undergrad business school placement at IBanks and that is a KNOWN fact, you can look nearly any post about placement in IBanks and people will tell you that Stern is only second to Wharton. Harvard doesn't have an undergraduate business school so they don't show placement or anything, but NYU is 2nd best in IBank placement out of undergraduate business schools and that is a reliable peice of info so I don't know why go around making such accusions, and by the way I am from NEUTRAL territory and I don't plan on attending Stern or NYU period. I honestly can say that if you knew anything about Investment Banking placement, I wouldn't be saying this over again.</p>
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On a another note, you guys do know that graucho marxist was student at Stern who transferred to CAS because he felt that people there were just trying to get a high grade and didn't care about learning anything and that the classes were generally easier at Stern. The reason why he left Stern was much more about Academics and Beliefs rather than working for an Ibank.</p>
<p>ABOUT GROUCHOMARXIST</p>
<p>I'm not talking about him switching to the college for higher intellectual learning, he stated in one of his posts that out of the kids who he knows at STERN, THE MAJORITY OF THEM DID NOT GET GOOD IB PLACEMENTS AND ENDED UP AT 2ND/3TH TIER CONSULTING, ACCOUNTING, ETC.</p>
<p>but at the end, you need to make a comparison to other elite schools otherwise how can we know how good or how bad Stern is in his opinion?(GROUCHOMARXIST didnt mention that based on what you pasted)</p>