Refresh my memory please…If an applicant submits everything on June 7th, but school doesn’t send the Committee Letter in until - say - end of July, is the student’s file not complete until then? Do his schools not see his app until after the CL has been properly received by AMCAS?
I realize that some/all med schools are able to send out secondary requests even before an app is verified and received by them. (I guess they get some sort of heads up - name/email???),
Some applicants for this cycle are concerned because they plan on submitting the first week of June, but have learned that their school doesn’t send out their CLs until end of July. They all had their Committee Interviews in April and first week of May, so they wrongly thought that their CLs would get sent out in early June.
Their concern is that their “submit early” efforts are being ruined by the late CL submission.
AMCAS doesn’t consider LORs/CL as part of the application which they process. (Just the primary and transcripts.) So the schools will be able to DL the student’s application to their system; however, the school will not process or review the application internally until the CL and secondary w/payment have been received.
Most schools do not send out committee letter out until late July at the earliest. Partly because the committee members are dealing w/finals and grades and then go on vacation as soon as the students leave campus. The health profession office has wait until all members are back on campus to hold meetings to review applicants. Committees also don’t review all the applicants at one sitting. There will be several meetings (all with concurrent scheduling issues that happen when you need 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 people together in the same room) to review applicants, but the committee will hold letters from candidates from earlier session until everyone has been reviewed. All letters are sent out at the same time.
Since med schools can download prior to CLs, can we be certain that they don’t review until CL is received?
Interesting that all letters are sent at the same time.
For an undergrad that has, say, 200+ applicants, would the undergrad rank them 1-200+ (seems too tedious) or do you think they sort them by into something like Best, Better, Good, and Weak piles and then tone of the CL reflects which pile the student is in?
Yes, because a significant number of applicants never complete their applications. And, because yes it’s a waste of time for adcomms to look at incomplete files. Adcomms are busy people–they have real jobs and admissions committee work is unpaid and usually done without release time from other duties. (Teaching, research, patient care, etc)
Now some really highly desirable applicants (think really high stats UiM applicants from brand name schools) might get their folder shifted to the top of the stack for immediate adcomm review as soon as CLs are received, but otherwise there’s a pretty hard & fast rule folders aren’t reviewed until they’re complete. Adcomms want to review each folder just once for IIs.
(OK, adcomms might re-review folders late in the application cycle if the school hasn’t tendered enough IIs or is experiencing a shortfall of students putting down deposits after acceptances.)
I have no idea how an individual UG school might internally rank candidates and write CLs. I’m sure each school has its own process.
What percentage of applicants submit a full AMCAS and then don’t submit a CL or LORs?
Regardless, many schools send out secondary invites the moment the AMCAS is submitted or processed and so even if they wait for the CL to review, they will definitely wait until the secondary is in to review so why not get that done ASAP.
It’s a matter of fairness. Applicants who met committee deadlines all get their letter sent out at the same time-- possibly in a 2 or 3 different batches but all within the same week.
Applicants who failed to meet deadlines may get their letter sent out significantly later (or not) depending on school policies.
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Regardless, many schools send out secondary invites the moment the AMCAS is submitted or processed
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So, I imagine that once an applicant submits to AMCAS and has indicated that s/he is applying to A, B, C, D, E, and F SOMS, then those SOMs very soon receive their name and email address, even before their apps are verified and sent to the SOMs?
Lol…I remember @curmudgeon mentioning something like his DD submitted her secondary late one evening and she received a rejection within a short number of hours suggesting that it wasn’t hardly possible for anyone to have actually reviewed/read it, but that UChi just wanted the app money.
Wake Forest (which pre-screens before sending out secondaries ) did the same to both D1 and her then BF. Both submitted mid afternoon (would have been late afternoon EST) and woke up the next morning to find they’d been rejected.
You’ll never convince me or D1 (or her ex-) that someone actually read their secondaries.
