<p>Yeah, and changing the definition of marriage to please a select few is right?</p>
<p>I was talking to a friend of mine, who is religious and active in her church, and she was saying that one of the passages from the Bible that is often used as a justification for going against same-sex marriage (I'm sorry, I can't remember the quote at this time), is actually taken out of context.</p>
<p>I know that some (many?) religions are against same-sex marriage; it is their right to believe that it is wrong. But to impose that belief onto everyone isn't fair. If they (the religious group) don't believe in it, then they can choose to not support it. In Canada, in the provinces/territories where same-sex marriage is legal, any religious group that does not believe in same-sex marriage has the right to refuse to marry a couple. That couple would be able to obtain a marriage license through the government. I don't think that anyone is trying to force religions to accept and support same-sex marriage; I think they just want their relationship to be recognized as legal by the government and to have the same rights that other couples have.</p>
<p>They should be able to have the same rights are heterosexual couples, but why call it marriage? It is insulting to people that are really married. We shouldn't change laws to please a select few, especially when these laws are being changed by activist judges.</p>
<p>because "separate but equal" works so well...</p>
<p>The definition of marriage has changed over the years. Prior to approximately the 1960s, the very idea of changing the definition of marriage to include inter-racial couples was considered ridiculous. They argued that it was against God's will for races to intermingle. Now a fairly similar arguement is being used for same-sex marriage.</p>
<p>"Yeah, and changing the definition of marriage to please a select few is right?"</p>
<p>Why pass the 14th Amendment then? Is changing the definition of a person to please a select few right?</p>
<p>Basically, whenever any gay issue comes up, I find that it clarifies it immensely to substitute "black." Suddenly, even conservatives recoil in horror at the blatant bigotry. Maybe we ought to ban black marriage--after all, we white people are in the majority, aren't we? The Bible tells me it's wrong!</p>
<p>well, the bible also does allow slavery</p>
<p>"TakingBackSaturday, please prove to me that God doesn't want homosexuals to marry. Prove it. "</p>
<p>Alright well for starters theres Genesis 18-19....there are angels sent to the city because they hear that all the inhabitants are sinning...the people want to rape the two angels sent to see if the city should be destroyed.</p>
<p>"Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodomboth young and oldsurrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, "Where are the [angels] who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." "</p>
<p>isn't rape the issue there, not homosexuality as a whole?</p>
<p>no because they wouldve raped Lot's daughters.</p>
<p>it's still rape, though.</p>
<p>I love how fundy Christians lift stuff out of the Bible when it suits their agenda--and ignore other things entirely when it doesn't. Also, I laughed out loud when TalkingBackSaturdayx "proved" that God doesn't like gay marriage using the Bible. It's great to hear that our Christian population still thinks it can objectively prove things using a book written 2000+ years ago by God knows who. Maybe I should start my own religion, with its own sacred text, and lift verses out of it as the basis for laws. As George Carlin said, "I have as much authority as the Pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it."</p>
<p>"it's still rape, though."</p>
<p>Its also stil a sin...who the hell would just go up to somebodys house and say hey i want to rape you!... unless it were true evil.</p>
<p>ok GD wat about the ten commandments??? those are way more sacred....."thou shalt obey thy mother and thy father" i dont see where it says "thou shalt obey thy man and thy man" LOL that just sounds screwed up in itself.</p>
<p>Did I mention they distort things, too? By the way, I'm still waiting for a reason why the Bible has any more authority than the "sacred text" I just scribbled on a napkin.</p>
<p>I think in the Bible, women were considered second-rate citizens along with people of minorities... The fact is, the Bible allowed many things that today's society consider to be wrong.</p>
<p>but it also dissallowed things considered the same today as they were such as gay marriage.</p>
<p>"By the way, I'm still waiting for a reason why the Bible has any more authority than the "sacred text" I just scribbled on a napkin."</p>
<p>-_- How bout you come up with an argument instead of trying to belittle my religion you flamer.</p>
<p>See, this is why I love sarcasm. It gets results!</p>
<p>Im still waiting for that argument...or was that it...that you have "sarcasm"?</p>
<p>OK, look, you can believe whatever you want. I understand how faith works--you don't really need to justify it to yourself, and that's all right. But if you're going to impose it on other people through law (or anything, for that matter), then you'd better be able to prove to ME that I some obligation to follow the Bible.</p>
<p>Thank you GDWilner for bringing up the point that needs to be discussed. Whether you are an atheist or an evangelical, the fact of the matter is that NO religious beliefs can permeate into national law. So I could care less what the Bible says..I care about the Constitution...and it says everyone is created equal...therefore Gays, Blacks, Asians, everyone is equal and therefore has the same rights.</p>