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To add to that…they get the low/middle income CA kids and then to offset that, they get the rich OOS kids. Dang…I guess I need to do more next year. We are not high income but (not considered middle/low either) Cal has been my dream school…and to think that a high gpa/sat/community service/summer ATDP programs still may not get me in…that is crazy. Now I think I will try to get college level summer courses…there…maybe do more community service…(get my essays reviewed to make sure…it is my voice…)…who knows !!</p>