Rejected, but should I be suprised? And Race Issue

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Wisconsin
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<p>Few Questions (please read carefully) </p>

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<li>I DID NOT mark my race/ethnicity on my application. Did that affect my decision? </li>
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<p>OOS Male
Top High School in IL</p>

<p>UW: 3.33
W: 3.49
ACT Composite 29
Major: Exploratory
EC + RECS = Very Good
Essays = Above Average</p>

<p>Please give me some feedback on both of these Q's thanks </p>

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<p>OOS + UW 3.33 will do it.</p>

<p>It is just all around more difficult for an out-of-state’r.</p>

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<p>It is more difficult to be admitted as a non-Wisconsin resident. Just over 70% of Wisconsin residents who apply were admitted as incoming freshmen last year.</p>

<p>A 3.33 GPA is on the low side, while the 29 ACT is decent; but the 3.33 / 29 combination may give the impression that while smart, you are not a hard worker.</p>

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<p>How is your ethnicity an issue in the decision if it was not marked?</p>

<p>(I see that you have three different threads asking about race and admissions).</p>

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<p>Thanks madison, just wondering since i did NOT mark, could that have hurt me? </p>

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<p>Maybe, if you are Native American, South East Asian-American, or African American.</p>

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<p>Deleted duplicate post.</p>

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<p>No!</p>

<p>Order of Importance
1)Major
2)Supply and Demand
3)GPA
4)Curriculum
5)SAT
6)Other</p>

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<p>Major does NOT matter for UW admissions. “Curriculum” must mean taking the most rigorous courses available to you- and doing well in them. ACT or SAT- remember Wisconsin is traditionally an ACT state.</p>

<p>The low gpa, especially with a good ACT, shows a lack of study skills. With that ACT you would expect much better grades. UW could easily be concerned you would not succeed, aside from the fact that too many better students applied. Being an underrepresented minority would not change your test score/grades factor.</p>

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<p>OOS parent here – both the unweighted gpa and ACT are low end; if it were an instate student, they would probably be postponed but not an OOS student. </p>

<p>If you are still looking for other schools, we were very impressed with Iowa, and they used a formula for determining admission so you can plug in your numbers and see if you will be accepted. There is even some merit money (or was a few years ago) for OOS students – my student was delighted to see he would get a $5000 scholarship at Iowa.</p>

<p>Minnesota is another option, if you are not applying to Engineering. </p>

<p>There will be acceptances in your future, hang in there. </p>

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<p>Also Iowa State. If you’ve had 4 years foreign language, 3 years science(chosen from bio/chem/physics) and 1 yr calc., your GPA/ACT is just high enough to qualify you for the ACE $8,000/yr scholarship(need 3.3/28), which brings the tuition down to about $12,000/yr. If you have 3 years foreign language, the science, and pre-calc, you get $6,000/yr. It is a really fun school. Students there love it. Great atmosphere and solid education. </p>

<p>With that GPA, at Minnesota he will not get into business or bio either, at least initially. They’ll put you in CLA. Apply by 12/15 if interested.</p>

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<p>Low GPA was the likely the main issue. Perhaps mentioning a minority race would have made you a stronger candidate</p>

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<p>UW currently accepts 33% of AA applicants. Here is data on that and other races from 2005-2014. ‘Unknown’ has the highest admit rate, 60%. Though this data is not broken down by in-state/OOS, unfortunately. </p>

<p>Denied white students are planning to join a group suing anyway
<a href=“http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/283069361.html”>http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/283069361.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And back in 2011 some were protesting the unfairness, claiming AA/Hispanics admitted at 70-85% rate in 2007-2008. Which does not appear to be the case from the data tables linked above. Very strange. It may be that test scores/grades of admitted minorities are lower than for Asians and whites, don’t have that data. But the admit rates were not that high, and have dropped quite a bit since 2007. Unless UW is somehow fudging the data. Or maybe I can’t read tables?? I can’t understand what is going on. In 2007, the admit rate was higher for Hispanics(though not for AA) than whites. But the combined AA/Hispanic admit rate was almost identical to whites, 57%. And in more recent years things have turned the other way. Now Hispanics alone are at 47% and whites at 55%.
<a href=“http://www.wkow.com/story/15450833/uw-madison-responds-to-new-studies-claiming-admissions-favors-minorities”>http://www.wkow.com/story/15450833/uw-madison-responds-to-new-studies-claiming-admissions-favors-minorities&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I found the referenced ‘Center for Equal Opportunity’ report, claiming a 70% admit rate for AAs at UW in 2007, but not including the numbers of applicants and admitted, so can’t compare to UW’s figures, which say 43%.
<a href=“http://www.ceousa.org/attachments/article/546/U.Wisc.undergrad.pdf”>http://www.ceousa.org/attachments/article/546/U.Wisc.undergrad.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Why can’t Asians let this go. When my child (Hispanic) didn’t get into his first choice school, regardless of outstanding credentials, discrimination never entered my mind. The hard fact is at the elite schools every race is capped. Accordingly, I don’t go around saying that some Asian with lower scores got his slot. </p>

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<p>Let’s not generalize. It’s not a problem with “Asians”, but with individuals.</p>

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<p>btw- not all Asians are the same. UW only considers some to be underrepresented minorities- such as Hmong (of which many have settled in WI, and MN) and some others.</p>