Rejected ED From top 10 University, need help reorganizing

College Search & Selection
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<p>URM
33 ACT
780/720/710/700 on Subject Tests
3.24/4.0 UW
Weighted (Rank): 62/525 [b/c of a lot of honors/ap classes]</p>

<p>ECs look good, look at my thread history</p>

<p>Recs: Both are good
GC Rec: Good</p>

<p>Essays: Good</p>

<p>Well Now i'm disoriented, can't decide where to apply to </p>

<p>Well idk what to do</p>

<p>Could somebody organize this under reach/match/safety/no way i could get in</p>

<p>and also add in a few similar schools</p>

<p>Emory
Rice
Vanderbilt
Chicago
Cornell
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Georgetown
Lehigh
Hamilton
George Washington
Vassar
Smith</p>

<p>I just want a school, where I would have a good learning experience and will be able to learn a lot. Also, there needs to be some kind of social life, whether big or small</p>

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<p>Check the common data set for these schools. Your ACT is fine, but your GPA is low for most of these schools. (At Emory, for example, you are in the bottom 1% of those admitted based on GPA. And 90% of the students were in the top 10% of their class, which you are not.)</p>

<p>This doesn’t preclude applying to some top schools, but your list is weighted heavily towards schools where your chances are very low. You may want to add a few more matches.</p>

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<p>and safeties…</p>

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<p>While your test scores are above average at almost all schools, your GPA is below average at most (all?) top 50 schools. You need more matches/safeties.</p>

<p>Emory - Reach
Rice - Reach
Vanderbilt - Reach
Chicago - Reach
Cornell - Reach
Notre Dame - Reach
Northwestern - Reach
Georgetown - Reach
George Washington - Match</p>

<p>You will probably get into a reach or two, but your list is very reach heavy.</p>

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<p>You know, despite common opinion here, going to a university or LAC on the second page of USNWR is not the kiss of death…</p>

<p>I’ve got a feeling that Ohio Northern may be some of what you are looking for. Their app is free and easy, and they would most likely give you a full ride (need URM’s like crazy). Also, the University of Dayton, Indiana U, Case Western, and Tulane may also be worth applying to (2 of 4 have free apps using Common App, and no supplement)</p>

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<p>The OP is a URM. He will be admitted to many of the schools on his list. The ACT is great and the GPA is good enough. In at Rice, depending on essays in at Chicago.</p>

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<p>What is Smith doing on the list? You are a guy, is that correct?</p>

<p>What kind of school do you really want? Your list includes LACs, mid-size universities, north and south, etc.</p>

<p>As the poster above me, MomofWildChild mentioned, you may well have a good chance at Rice, Emory and Vanderbilt among others. </p>

<p>If you have specific questions about some of the schools, perhaps you could ask them here or on another thread. How about potential major? Not all of these schools have business schools, for instance; not all have engineering programs, and so on.</p>

<p>Sorry about the rejection, but you have a lot of other options. You might like some of them better than the ED school.</p>

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<p>Even though the OP is an URM, I’d think his results at a place like Chicago will depend significantly on his course rigor as well as on his essays. An URM with his ACT and SATIIs with “most rigorous” checked on the course schedule box could be in a good position. That said, i have the perhaps-inaccurate impression that RM status usuallyoffsets test scores more than GPA and class rank.</p>

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<p>Sorry to hear it. It’s not the end of the world, though. Best of luck with these schools!</p>

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<p>Are blacks/latinos/native americans the only races considered under represented?
Asian?
Biracial?</p>

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<p>Interesting- is your school very grade deflated? Your tremendously low UW GPA compared to your relatively high class rank intrigues me. Wit your URM status your list is much more reasonable, but still very reach heavy. Emory, Rice, and Vandy are all pretty solid bets. Perhaps Georgia Tech, UVA, UI-UC, or UW-Madison? A solid state school would be able to give you an excellent education, a great social life, etc.</p>

<p>Fordham would also be a worthwhile place to apply.</p>

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<p>OP may be a URM, but does she really want to attend a school where she is in the bottom 1% of the class in terms of GPA? It’s not just about getting in-it’s about doing well and feeling successful somewhere. It’s possible that the low GPA reflects a slow start-lots of kids don’t do very well in 9th grade, and if there is an upward trend, then I agree that OP could be happy and successful at some of her reaches, but if she’s a solid B student, she may find that being at an Emory-type school is just discouraging. </p>

<p>I would encourage her to look at some schools where is she more likely to be in the middle of the pack academically, and can expect to shine in the field he majors in. (I’m assuming OP is female since Smith is all women.) Some examples: Elon, Dickenson, Northeastern</p>

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<p>Agree with maxellis and the others. With great essays, Emory, Vandy and Cornell-transfer option are possibilities of the reaches.</p>

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<p>Dont listen to the naysayers. Being rejected by a top 10 is NOT a bad thing. Fewer than 10% get in, even with OUTSTANDING stats and scores. Its a lottery. Move on.</p>

<p>Now…about you and your goals. First, there is plenty of time, though you need to focus.</p>

<p>Your gpa raw score is not the best…but in light of the AP’s its fine. Colleges love B students in AP courses. </p>

<p>Focus on second tier schools. From top 25-75. THOSE schools will scoop you up so fast its not funny.</p>

<p>PRESTIGE, by the way, is highly overrated. Focus instead on your goals and ambitions.</p>

<p>FIT. FIT. And MORE FIT. How do you fit? Academically, socially, financially, geographically, program wise, challenge wise, facilities wise…on and on. YOU decide.</p>

<p>Make your list. 6-8 schools. Make it THIS weekend. (Get Barrons or Petersens Directory). </p>

<p>Do Common App to most of them if you can. Get your materials to the Guidance Counselor at your H.S. and recommendation forms to your teachers. </p>

<p>Suggestions? If you want a superb quality education, pretty campus, outstanding internships and job market, likely excellent financial aid or scholarships, and just a lot of fun, plus diversity, challenge, and a very middle of the road student body (neither left wing nor right wing extremists), with Division 1-A sports and club sports galore…</p>

<p>Look at Fordham. </p>

<p>Your list is fine. You will get in to several of them, likely. But you do need a few more matches and a few less reaches. </p>

<p>Congrats on your accomplishments. DONT BE CONFUSED OR DOWN ON YOURSELF. Its no fun getting rejected or deferred. But tens of millions get the same response. Truly. So move on, shrug and focus on your future.</p>

<p>Put a check on (as in think about) your prestige notions. Its the second tier schools where kids are often the most successful in college, happiest and most well adjusted (as in not frenzied and neurotic and self obsessed.)</p>

<p>Life is full of disappointments and challenges. Those who LEARN from them are the ones who are most successful in life (and not always just with money.)</p>

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<p>Most US News top 10 schools accept MORE THAN 10% of applicants.</p>

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<p>“Fit” is mere rationalization for those who lack prestige.</p>

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<p>Yet again, shameless shilling!</p>

<p>“Plus diversity” at Fordham??? lolz…</p>

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<p>Hobart College, NY
St. Lawrence University, NY
Ohio Wesleyan University
College of Wooster, OH
Texas Christian University
Pomona College, CA
Beloit College, WI
U of Denver
U of Missouri-Columbia</p>

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<p>I did too. :(</p>

<p>I mentally prepared myself for it so I’ve accepted it.</p>

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<p>*URM
33 ACT
780/720/710/700 on Subject Tests
3.24/4.0 UW
Weighted (Rank): 62/525 [b/c of a lot of honors/ap classes]</p>

<p>Could somebody organize this under reach/match/safety/no way i could get in</p>

<p>and also add in a few similar schools</p>

<p>Emory
Rice
Vanderbilt
Chicago
Cornell
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Georgetown
Lehigh
Hamilton
George Washington
Vassar
Smith</p>

<h2>I just want a school, where I would have a good learning experience and will be able to learn a lot. Also, there needs to be some kind of social life, whether big or small *</h2>

<p>First of all, I’m sorry to hear that you weren’t accepted. It’s natural to feel as you do right now…it’s actually a grieving period, so don’t be hard on yourself for feeling like this. :)</p>

<p>Are you a female? I’m guessing you are because of Smith.</p>

<p>Can I ask which URM you are? That can make a difference at some schools. Some need more AAs and some need more Hispanics, etc.</p>

<p>How’s your aid situation? Will you need FA and qualify for FA? Do you want a “no-loan” FA package (which I’m guessing your top 10 school may have given you.) </p>

<p>Do you know what your EFC is?</p>

<p>Let us know what kind of FA package is acceptable to you. At this late of date, we don’t want to be recommending schools that can’t meet need or would include ridiculous loans. </p>

<p>I like Vandy. It meets 100% of need w/o loans and the weather is moderate! Plus, it’s in fun Nashville.</p>

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<p>I’m AA</p>

<p>Family EFC is 24k</p>

<p>my parents are willing to pay ~25,000</p>

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<p>Quite frankly, a less diverse school will be more willing to go the extra mile for a URM under its holistic admissions program…whether or not that meets the OP’s social requirement is up to him/her.</p>