<p>I recently got rejected from Haverford ED and it has shattered my confidence (A deferal would have been OK, but rejection makes me think that I'm applying out of my league).</p>
<p>Anyways, should I call admissions and request reasons for my rejection? I would Like to know what parts of my app can be improved.</p>
<p>Don't think you're applying out of your league because of this one rejection. I know it hurts. I know. I've seen more than one child cry over this stuff.</p>
<p>There could be all KINDS of reasons you didn't get accepted. But let me tell you a story that may help.</p>
<p>I went to a presentation by an Ivy League admissions officer a couple of years ago. He told us that his school had ~ 20,000 applications for 1,300 slots, and that they would admit 2,000 kids to fill those 1,300 slots. That would make the admissions rate 10%.</p>
<p>He went on to say that, of those 20,000, 15,000 were perfectly well qualified. When they narrowed the class down to 5,000, he said they were indistinguishable from each other.</p>
<p>He was very clear. He said that his school could throw out everyone they accepted and take the NEXT 2,000 and, for all he knew, have a better class than the one they admitted.</p>
<p>So, be of good cheer. Chances are, someone spun the wheel and your name didn't come up.</p>
<p>i always thought that schools, especially with ed applicants, should give the reasons for a rejection. so, although, i would agree not to let this rejection get to you too much (remember, it really is all a crap shoot), i would still ask your counselor to call.</p>
<p>Dear BLB,
My condolences & my total sympathy about the resulting confidence quotient.</p>
<p>My opinion on your question is, No harm in asking GC to do such a favor. Also, more likely that said GC will get truer & more inside information than merely the applicant. Sometimes applicants get lucky in that regard, but more often, more complete info is granted to an "official." </p>
<p>But understand that sometimes even the GC does not succeed in getting a satisfactory answer. Sometimes the answer is unknown. Increasingly, over the last ~4 years, here's been the trend for LAC's: increasing enrollment & application pressure, due to population peaks, due to regional preferences, due to preference for multiple apps out of fear of multiple rejections (including using LAC's as "safeties" -- whether ED or not). This has allowed the LAC's -- which already had a small # of spots due to size & due to the # of traditionally feeder high schools -- to be increasingly selective in both ED and RD rounds. It's been predicted that this trend will maintain (& on the upswing) for at least another couple of years. </p>
<p>Last year what happened was that as the result of the previous cycle, lots of well-qualified applicants in the mid-Atlantic & NE decided to forego their dream school(s) & apply ED to an LAC, even though these candidates were qualified for a higher reach. The same could be occurring this year. You were probably competing with a number of "overqualified" applicants.</p>
<p>Renew your search for safeties & matches acceptable to you. If you need any ideas, you're welcome to PM me.:)</p>
<p>I believe epiphany has given you good info. Your GC may or may not get the straight story. But it doesn't hurt to try. It's possible that you might glean some important information about how to present yourself in the next round of apps.</p>
<p>I got my GC to call Tufts today to find out why I was rejected. Wanna know why? Because my 7 AP classes were less than my fellow Chicago-area applicants.</p>
<p>I'm not sad anymore (and i've been devestated since yesterday) I'm just angry. It really helped to hear that though.</p>
<p>Oh, and the trend has been at many schools to reject more and defer less.</p>
<p>master....what is sad is that many school have AP classes that really aren't AP....and the kids don't have to take the test...some AP classes are just glorified regular classes with the AP label, tufts needs to see that...#s are bot everything</p>
<p>at my Ds very competitive HS, the MOST APs one seems to be able to take is about 8- including language...most aren't allowed to take AP until Jr year and only so many- like 3 a year...so guess tufts would reject our kids as well</p>
<p>I feel for you. My son got an ED rejection a couple years ago and it stinks...I remember that feeling that we all blew the entire process, that he overshot.. (luckily he received an EA acceptance a few days later so that helped).</p>
<p>I think epiphany's advice is correct: make sure you have applications in order for match and safeties where you can see yourself going. The next DAY after S's rejection he threw in a Villanova application...it was an easy one, close to us and a relative safety for him. </p>
<p>Even if you find the reasons for rejection from your GC it's basically too late to make major changes.</p>
<p>Good luck to you. All is not lost...far from it! You may even get accepted into a more selective school than Haverford but for now I'd shore up those match schools.</p>
<p>Yeah, it's too bad that Tufts was unable to see how my mere 7 APs weren't me slacking off. But whatever, I've realized that Tufts was not the best place for me, and I think that came through in the application. Not that I didn't love the school, but that I was this liberal activist more suited to Brown or Wesleyan as opposed to Tufts.</p>
<p>YOu applied to Harvard, the fact of the matter is that MANY well qualified and BRILLIANT students get rejected from Ivies each year. The Ivies simply receive too many applications from too many BRILLIANT people and they simply can't accomdate them all. DOn't feel bad.</p>