<p>Kids admitted to HYPSMC(altec) from public schools in my district (around 600 kids per school) usually have higher stats and class rank (lower than 10 or 20 with significant awards).</p>
<p>My son had the exact same test scores as your D (although with a 4.0), no leadership (his school is new and has few ECs) and very little community service. What he did have was an unusual musical EC that has been a passion since he was a little kid – which made him stand out enough to be accepted by both Princeton and Brown (rejected Yale and Stanford, waitlisted at Harvard). Your D’s app, while excellent, might just have lacked that “X factor” that could have made it memorable for adcom folk who have to sift through literally thousands of apps.</p>
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Harvard is not Ohio State, but comparing them academically based on sports conferences seems fairly absurd, no?</p>
<p>Talking about the Ivy League just symbolizes the highest level of competition in admissions. Are they the only good schools? No. Are they the only competitive schools? No. Do people overemphasize the Ivy League in their college searches? Definitely. But it’s still a bit facetious to say the Ivy League is just a sports conference, and even more so to imply that anyone cares about it as a sports conference.</p>
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Right, so Stanford doesn’t compare with any of the members of the Ivy League Sports Conference for difficulty in admission. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Race, rank, and the senior year drop in GPA, which might have signaled an inability to handle more rigorous work. Good-but-not-outstanding ECs probably didn’t help either.</p>
<p>Sorry to reply randomly, but I keep wondering what is “D”? I keep seeing it everywhere on this forum.</p>
<p>D = daughter</p>
<p>What state is the op from? Some states have waaaay tooo many apps and you’re initially competing witn regional apps.</p>
<p>Instead of worrying about what could have been better, you should be happy that your daughter had a competitive chance at the Ivy League. </p>
<p>Ivies don’t have a clear cut definition of who’s in and who’s out. As my Princeton rejection letter says</p>
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<p>Where’s she headed, anyway? I’m sure it’s somewhere fantastic.</p>
<p>I haven’t read through this entire thread, but a lot of people seem to be stressing “competition.” Yes, of course that factors into admission, but it isn’t relevant to a student’s individual application. We can never control who we are competing against. What we can control is whether we are the best that we can be.</p>
<p>At the most basic level, her numbers don’t match up, as others have mentioned. I’m not sure what her leadership roles were or how much she did, but her ECs seem like those of the average Ivy applicant.</p>
<p>your daughter shouldve gotten into cornell. i got in and i want to say that the stats on the class of 2015 cornell decisions are mediocre. i dont know *** the admissions people are thinking</p>
<p>Which is probably why they’re admissions committee members and you’re a high school student.</p>
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<p>That’s not what s/he said.* The word symbolizes was used and is accurate for the purpose.* No one is denying that there are many other excellent schools, some of which are equal to or better than the Ivys in various ways.* Straw man.</p>
<p>^^ lol. That is all haha.</p>
<p>Ahh that was meant at polarscribe.</p>
<p>lol i’ll find out what happens at cornell. i’ll intern there and tell you how many die they roll</p>
<p>@azndarkvadar totally. I’ll come with you.
xD</p>