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<p>Oh dontno, soccer_guy is voting for Hilary. Lol. I only know this because I stalk him. He's not as "bad" as he may seem... at ALL, but you shouldn't really expect much if you're going to attack a whole belief system without provocation.</p>

<p>When people are attacked, they're on the offense.
When they're on the offense, things aren't pretty.</p>

<p>You could even PM him if you feel so offended. I see here a battle for attention, when all I really want is my question answered not a diatribe on religion itself.</p>

<p>But yeah. Any of the ministries active during the summer?</p>

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<p>last summer, there were many chalkings on campus about weekly Christian meetings at Cornell. Not sure what society/ organization was holding them, but there were BBQs, prayer meetings, and more advertised.</p>

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<p>sorry soccerguy, I must have been high on atheism when I wrote that..lol</p>

<p>all jokes aside, I didn't point out dontno's mild rudeness since dewdrop had already done so and I can understand khrushchevtm's point about people being on their offensive. Also, these discussion boards sometimes make things sound more rude than they really are. </p>

<p>Khrushchevtm, I am honestly sorry for posting this stuff on your topic..I was just offended by soccerboy's view towards atheists</p>

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<p>yousonofatree-
Why thank you; I'll be on the lookout.</p>

<p>raj-
I understand how the internets work, but let's keep the peace.
World peace. Around the world. Or CC. It's all applicable.</p>

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<p>Just as a purely intellectual question, for both Christians and atheists: what led to your conviction that God does/doesn't exist? A spiritual experience, maybe? Just curious.</p>

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Just as a purely intellectual question, for both Christians and atheists: what led to your conviction that God does/doesn't exist? A spiritual experience, maybe? Just curious.

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<p>I am a Christian, btw.
I came to my conviction through knowledge, revelation, spritual encounters, numerous testimonies about God I heard from people I know in person, "deeper" not "superficial" understanding of the knowledge of Bible and its contents as I matured. I have more evidences for my conviction, but I will stay away from writing them on this board since it may be a bit controversial and may sound crazy/foreign to atheists and non-believers.</p>

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<p>Voted for Bush..?</p>

<p>See what I'm talking about? You think it's okay to have a stereotypical attitude toward Christians, but I can't have one toward atheists. Such a double standard..</p>

<p>You may say you didn't insult me...but to me, I think I'd rather be called "lost" than accused of voting for Bush.</p>

<p>I campaigned hard against him...as I do almost every Republican because the majority act fairly bigoted. </p>

<p>Yet again, in your narrow view of Christians, you assume I'm just another Republican voting, Bush supporting hick. As khrushchevtm pointed out, I'm an avid Hillary supporter (and yes..she DOES stalk me).</p>

<p>Is it amazing to you that someone can be a Christian but still be liberal? I can't stand conservatism...we'll never move forward with that mindset. I happen to believe in universal health care, gay rights shouldn't be separate from human rights, and that women should be allowed to have an abortion in many cases -- though I can't support a woman wanting to abort simply because she made a bad decision and forgot birth control.</p>

<p>Yet you believe liberalism must be separate from Christianity. Not so...and if anyone needs to expand their horizons, it's you.</p>

<p>Oh...and you're right...I campaigned for Kerry, but was too young to vote for him. My whole family did though. You're gonna have to fill me in on the term "ilk"</p>

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<p>I am basically an atheist.</p>

<p>My parents were/are so overbearingly religious that they basically forced the religion out of me and my brothers. It was counterproductive, on their part. But of course I would never admit outright (I do allude a lot, however) that I am nonreligious because there would be a ton of repercussions. I'll save that for when I am not dependent on them.</p>

<p>I am, however, still involved in my religion since it is such a heavy part of our culture. </p>

<p>I also analyzed my religion, and analyzed many of the other religions and just could not come to believe in anything religious. For me it's all or nothing. I refuse to believe that one religion is right, while the others are wrong. </p>

<p>For now I'm a skeptic, and I feel that I will remain this way, but who knows what will happen in the future.</p>

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<p>Patlees- I could tell.</p>

<p>Well, since my question(s) have been answered, I guess I can respond. For me, it was just a series of events that built on top of each other. It took a lot for me to believe again; as a kid I was afraid to believe but was forced to. I didn't ask questions, when I did they weren't answered, so I just accepted. I flip-flopped a lot between belief and disbelief during high school (average teenage skeptic), but it honestly didn't "click" with me all at once; it was a gradual realization of faith. </p>

<p>Even when I thought I had no faith, it was still there.
Even when I refused to believe in good, I couldn't deny or escape its existence, even within myself.
It took a lot to finally get myself to acknowledge my OWN beliefs.
It definitely wasn't easy. There was no momentous turning point for me. Just a lot of scrutiny, and listening. Definitely opening my ears, eyes, and mind. Learning to recognize life's little miracles.</p>

<p>Redefining the definition of a believer, as someone who actively pursues their beliefs.
As well as Patlees, the evidence will just sound ridiculous to those who want it to. Sometimes, I'll tell you, it sounds crazy to me. That's the way it goes.</p>

<p>I don't believe everything I hear. I don't completely trust just one religion to "get it right". I believe in God, not church sects. </p>

<p>I'm always questioning. Some questions I find answers to, others I don't. I continue to search. Sometimes I lose sleep in doing so, just staring at my ceiling, wondering.</p>

<p>I never regret believing, even when I hate it. Life would be easier, I'll admit, but not as meaningful for me. I'd feel like I was erring, just a strange something I couldn't pin down. It's weird to explain, but it's what it is.</p>

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<p>@ soccer_guy:
You completely ignored my entire post. My comment about Bush was a joke. I meant it as a broader idea that religion is an unnecessary bedrock of our country. It doesn't matter to me whether or not you voted for Bush. </p>

<p>I'll repeat again. You ignored my entire post. I made some points that you completely disregarded.</p>

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<p>@ k14:
You're Jewish, right?</p>

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<p>Wow, after reading this thread, I think dontno's comment was completely out of line and unnecessary, given the nature of the topic. Soccer guy was only defending himself after being attacked.</p>

<p>After seeing this, my view of athiests has not been improved.</p>

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<p>Are you seriously kidding me ????
"Defending himself" does not justify anything. If that was true, then Bush has the right to invade any country he wants and osama bin laden has the right to blow up any building he can( he's just defending his religious values!!) </p>

<p>"my views of atheists has not been improved"....Are you serious ?? Who do you think you are ? and learn how to spell atheists</p>

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@ k14:
You're Jewish, right?

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<p>lol, no I'm not Jewish.</p>

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<p>dontno's comments were unnecessary, but you don't think that soccerguy's response was out of line as well? There's a difference between justifying one's views and simply "defending" them by putting down others'. "Unlike them, some of us actually enjoy being a Christian. I'm sorry that you're lost...but don't try to lead other people down with you" and "Athiests can't help it...they want everyone to suffer with them." had nothing to do with defending Christianity; they were offensive generalizations. A more appropriate response would've been to explain that some Christians genuinely believe what they believe, and that they aren't just the blind followers that dontno described. If you ask me, this doesn't reflect well on either side, and it shows why there is so much religious tension in the world.</p>

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<p>On second thought, I don't want to start a religious fight. </p>

<p>Also, I thought raj was the Cornell hater from another thread, but he was actually defending it.</p>

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<p>Wow, I think some people here need to see Zeitgeist...
(just kidding)</p>