Renting/Selling class notes: What do you think of the idea?

<p>What do you think of the idea of selling or renting either lab manuals or class notes. I mean both items don't change much over time, and there isn't anyone doing it anyways. Would this be a service you are interested in?</p>

<p>I think it'd be dumb to buy'em, but I know that it'd be a lucrative business - - - especially for those who don't show up to class. </p>

<p>Me interested: no
Everyone else: yes</p>

<p>Yeah it lets lazy people who never go to class to catch up easily. I'm sure they would love the idea either way but I wouldn't be interested.</p>

<p>No way. In a way I think it's cheating to use others' notes ALL the time.</p>

<p>LOL. I'm not actually asking for you to buy them from me. I'm just wondering if you think there is a market. But really, you may want to have other people notes just to see what you missed even if you're a top student. :p</p>

<p>Def market - i would buy from you every day.</p>

<p>And its not like the course changes substantially each year. Textbooks change editions all the time, but the notes are generally the same each year.</p>

<p>There was a business in Boston that would pay students to go to classes (some that they weren't necessarily enrolled in) to take notes. The business would then sell those notes to interested students.</p>

<p>Schools' repsonse:</p>

<p>The students who were sitting in on classes without permission were, essentially, guilty of theft, as they did not pay for the class.</p>

<p>The students who purchased the notes were cheating and could be expelled.</p>

<p>The business was guilty of copyright infringement, since it was reproducing and distributing the schools' intellectual property without permission.</p>

<p>I saw advertisements for this business for a semester or two. They aren't around any longer, I believe.</p>

<p>Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.</p>

<p>penn pays for students who take notes for disabled students. </p>

<p>i show up in classes most of the time, but i still need my friends' notes to fill up some "spaced out" time in class and because my note-taking skills sux.</p>

<p>my backpack was stolen before my first midterms (who would steal it? but it did disappear T_T) and my friends' notes rescued me. </p>

<p>do we really get punished if we use other students' notes? i dont think they'll ever care.</p>

<p>There's a major difference between borrowing your friends' notes and purchasing notes from a third party not affiliated with the university.</p>

<p>There is a store at Rutgers that does this. The store itself is actually right off college ave and it doesn't look like it's doing too bad for itself.</p>

<p>The only thing I find is that I don't learn nearly as much using other people's notes</p>

<p>I'm not in college, but I see people in my class selling their notes to underclassmen all the time. Personally, I would never sell my notes because I would want others to have to work just as hard as I did in order to do well.</p>

<p>well great there is a market for it...great. :)</p>

<p>Here (UCLA) you can go buy lecture notes in the bookstore. However I'd much rather just take my own notes.</p>

<p>Depending on the school you attend it could be grounds for expulsion: violating the honor code for academic integrity, so I'd be careful if I were you.</p>

<p>Well, I'll check with the school. This is strange how some school blatantly sell these things while others expell students for doing it. Weird, weird...</p>

<p>sounds against the honor code to me.</p>

<p>If the school bookstore is selling them, they are obviously provided by the professors, which is completely different.</p>

<p>It's just good business. I fail to see how it is an honor code violation any more than sharing lecture notes with a friend who missed the class - if you are allowed to study with your fellow students and to seek outside aid (i.e. looking for help online, with other non-course books on the course subject, etc...), then using someone else's notes is just another way of preparing for tests/etc... </p>

<p>I think that you could very successfully appeal any disciplinary action that resulted from selling notes with great success; it isn't cheating any more than studying with friends/see above is. The intellectual property argument is interesting, though I don't know if that would hold up in court.</p>

<p>Schools that have an honor code take it very seriously. I can only talk to my D's housemate at Dartmouth where the professor failed her this for violating the honor code and another friend got called to the dean.</p>

<p>Dartmouth states:</p>

<p>The Faculty of Dartmouth College, in recognizing the responsibility of students for their own education, assumes intellectual honesty and integrity in the performance of academic assignments, both in the classroom and outside. Each student upon enrollment at Dartmouth College accepts this responsibility with the understanding that any student who submits work which is not his or her own violates the purpose of the College and is subject to disciplinary actions, up to and including suspension and separation.</p>

<p>The faculty, administration and students of Dartmouth College recognize the Academic Honor Principle as fundamental to the education process. Any instance of academic dishonesty is considered a violation of the Academic Honor Principle.</p>

<p>Fundamental to the principle of independent learning are the requirements of honesty and integrity in the performance of academic assignments, both in the classroom and outside. Dartmouth operates on the principle of academic honor, without proctoring of examinations. Any student who submits work which is not his or her own, or commits other acts of academic dishonesty, violates the purposes of the college and is subject to disciplinary actions, up to and including suspension or separation.</p>

<p>The Academic Honor Principle depends on the willingness of students, individually and collectively, to maintain and perpetuate standards of academic honesty. Each Dartmouth student accepts the responsibility to be honorable in the student's own academic affairs, as well as to support the Principle as it applies to others.</p>

<p>Any student who becomes aware of a violation of the Academic Honor Principle is bound by honor to take some action. The student may report the violation, speak personally to the student observed in violation of the Principle, exercise some form of social sanction, or do whatever the student feels is appropriate under the circumstances. </p>

<p>they even list it as an addemdum on the class syllabus.</p>