<p>Is the Repertoire list still required for auditions? I didn’t see it listed on their website…
[UM</a> School of Music, Theatre & Dance - Department of Musical Theatre - Auditions & Interviews](<a href=“http://www.music.umich.edu/departments/mustheatre/auditions.htm]UM”>http://www.music.umich.edu/departments/mustheatre/auditions.htm)</p>
<p>let me know if you can shed some light!
thanks,
knarfy</p>
<p>Yes it is... The info is located on the application and somewhere else on the site... I forget where but just look around for it.. I think it is under the general page for music theatre and dance</p>
<p>We just discussed this on another thread: yes, Michigan still requires the rep list. Go to the web site for the School of Music, Theatre and Dance and keep clicking (I think you go under "prospective students" first and on from there). You should come up with a list that talks about what they want on the resume and the rep list.</p>
<p>Do you know how many students they took in their freshman Musical Theatre program this year and how many seniors graduated last year?</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>I'm not sure if this is helpful or not but there is a thread called audition/class size numbers that you may want to look at. As far as UMICH goes it says they had 650 applicants. 450 were eligible and 22 accepted. I don't know how many graduated last year.</p>
<p>Ms. Bagwell, </p>
<p>I've noticed that you have asked this same question on various MT colleges' own forums. I'm not sure if you should rely on anonymous posters for this information or the schools themselves, as you are the head of another MT program. </p>
<p>I'm not sure the purpose of the comparison with how many graduated vs. how many entered each program. None of these programs you posted on are cut programs like your program. All programs intend to graduate the number who entered. At most programs, a few may leave voluntarily for various reasons (realize it isn't really for them, etc) although at most of the programs you posted on, there is a very low attrition rate and most remain all four years. For instance, CMU usually takes about 10 and often graduates about 10. UMich often takes about 20-22 and often graduates that number. Syracuse often takes about 20 and often graduates about that number, with slight variations per year. (these are some of the school forums you posted on) You also posted on Northwestern but that is a BA program and one doesn't commit to a major upon matriculating at the university. </p>
<p>You ask about UMichigan, and they have about 20-22 per year. However, last year's graduating class which was nicknamed "biggest class ever" had more....I forget the exact number....about 27 or 28. This was because in their year's admission cycle, the program admitted about 28 to yield their usual 20 or so freshmen class but every kid accepted the offer and their yield was higher than expected. In subsequent years, they accepted fewer to yield their desired 20 freshmen since many who get the offer seem to choose to enroll and they have adjusted the acceptances accordingly to reflect their yield trends. </p>
<p>Or....Perhaps you are asking in an effort to see if the programs are growing but each of the programs you have asked about have maintained the same size now for many years.</p>
<p>Actually, the biggest class ever from UMich was the 2007 graduating class. This year I think they graduated 23 or 24 and there are 24 in the entering Freshman class. UMich does their "cuts" after the first semester of the Sophomore year. If they feel you aren't going to make it, they strongly advise you to leave the program. Not sure if that infor was asked for, but there it is.</p>
<p>I may have gotten the class of 2007 and the class of 2008 mixed up...one of these was the "biggest class ever" at around 27 or 28. </p>
<p>UMich is not a cut program. In fact, the director of the program speaks STRONGLY against cuts and about nurturing and keeping every student they take. I have not heard about any UMich BFA student being encouraged to leave the program.</p>
<p>Soozie - I am just curious.........what is the average nationwide percentage of students admitted .vs. those who graduate ?? Not just MT, all majors in general at colleges across the US. thanks</p>
<p>I do not know the statistic of the nationwide percentage of college students who graduate. </p>
<p>However, for each college, you can obtain the percentage of students who graduate in four years or in six years. This is a good "stat" to examine. There are some colleges with very low graduation rates and others with very high ones. I think this says something of the student body at each school. </p>
<p>Examples:
Average graduaton rates (for the whole university, not a specific program):</p>
<p>Harvard 97.8%
Yale 96%
Brown University 95%
MIT 93%
Swarthmore 92.3%
Tufts University 90.5%
University of Michigan 87.3%
Carnegie Mellon 86%
NYU 82.8%
Skidmore 81%
Syracuse 80.5%
Ithaca 75.5%
Smith 73.8%
Elon 73.5%
Emerson 71.3%
Baldwin-Wallace 68.3%
Otterbein 61.3%
University of the Arts 59.5%
Oklahoma City University 50.8%
University of Cincinnati 50.3%
Columbia College (Chiicago) 44.5%</p>
<p>You may notice that there is a direct correlation between the selectivity of the college and the graduation rate of its graduates. </p>
<p>(the topic of this thread is the UMich MT Repertoire List....unfortunately)</p>
<p>Whether it is called a cut program or not, they do evaluate the students during their sophomore year and they do ask students to leave the program. I would imagine it is very difficult for Brent Wagner to do this. Knowing him, he would think of it as a failure on his part to prepare those asked to leave. But is does happen and I think it is a good idea to let the students know where they stand.</p>
<p>As a UM student, I'd like to echo Soozievt in clearing up a misunderstanding posted earlier - Michigan is NOT a cut program. No one is asked or suggested to leave the program, and there are no "juries" at the end of the semester at which a student can be put on probation or cut like at other programs. There are what are called "evals" at the end of the sophomore year where the students perform for the whole faculty, but it's done so the faculty can see the student's work and then discuss with them what the best path of study is for the final two years in the program (both to satisfy the student's interest and to help them improve in areas that aren't as strong).</p>
<p>This year's freshman class has 23 (there's also one transfer student who takes some classes with us but will graduate with MT11) and all the other classes have 20. I believe they made offers to 24 or 25 for this year's freshman class.</p>
<p>Having heard Brent Wagner speak, I believe it is more what actormcfamous posted. They have NO cuts and they don't ask students to leave and I don't think any student who applies or attends needs to worry about this. In fact, Brent speaks emphatically about wanting to keep all the students who matriculate and seeing them through the program. My D attends NYU and CAP21 has "evals" at the end of every semester, NOBODY is asked to leave the program. The evals are meant as feedback on your progress. It is part of the learning experience. I believe that is how UMich is as well. There are no probations or anything. Anyone who wants to remain in the program may do so. I imagine if someone has failing grades, they can't stay as in any college or major. I haven't heard of anyone in this situation but as a former college teacher myself, failing is failing. But that is not what we are talking about here. Nobody is asked to leave UMich's program to my knowledge.</p>
<p>llong...you mention "if they feel like you are not going to make it..." and my understanding at UMich from Brent Wagner, which is like it is at CAP21, even if you are not super talented and you may never make it, you can see the program through until graduation. You are not encouraged to leave it. And you certainly are not made to leave.</p>
<p>Some of those that do not graduate with their class at UM or elsewhere in MT do so because they are off on national tours or Broadway!!! Food for thought. Myriad of reasons why one might not graduate with their class, but perhaps later- taking a leave for instance.</p>
<p>Like ttmom says, there are many reasons why students don't graduate with their classes. :)</p>
<p>The UM Class of 2007 was initially 29 (from 30 admissions offers made). 22 showcased their senior year: of the remaining 7, 1 did a national tour his junior year and therefore graduated last year, 2 graduated in Dec. 2006 and didn't showcase because their careers had already taken off as composers (Pasek and Paul), 2 left to pursue other careers during sophomore year (self-prompted and not as a result of sophomore evals), 1 studied at Moscow Art Theatre during his junior year and was asked to stay on and join the company, and 1 decided to do 2 years of post-grad humanitarian/missionary work in Central America before returning to MT (but had already done 2 seasons with the Muny and did a third before leaving for his missionary trip).</p>
<p>This year's senior class "lost" a member to the Spring Awakening national tour, but his plan is to come back and graduate with the Class of 2010.</p>
<p>I'm sure each MT program has similar stories of who "left" and why. Some, like Aaron Tveit (Ithaca) and Chris Peluso (UMich) leave to work and may intend to return but end up working so consistently that they never do return.</p>
<p>I agree that examining the number of graduates (and I don't truly know the reason Ms. Bagwell is asking this at several schools on the forum) doesn't imply how many were asked to leave at all (many programs like UMich or NYU do not ask students to leave). But some leave a BFA if they realize it is not right for them (just like kids leave regular colleges). And some leave due to getting work (my D has lots of friends at CAP21 who have been cast and have taken a leave with plans to return and some who aren't returning at all)</p>
<p>I am just passing on what other students in the program have told us. And there have been students asked to pursue another course of study after these evaluations. Actormcfamous, have you been through these evals? If so, then your info is more accurate than mine.</p>
<p>llong39 - I'm a freshman and so I haven't been through evals; however, when I visited last spring it was the week before evals and so the sophomores were all rehearsing like mad and talking about them a lot. You say that you've heard of kids being asked to pursue another major after the evals, and I'd be curious to hear the circumstances. We've discussed cuts extensively since we got here a month ago, and Brent Wagner (the department head) has repeated time after time that they do not believe in having a cut policy both because they think it's wrong to cut students and because having cuts makes the students more competitive and they are more likely to try to go overboard with impressing/sucking up to their teachers. UM simply does not cut students.</p>
<p>actormcfamous....I have heard Brent also speak to this issue and he is emphatically against cuts and wants a collaborative atmosphere and not a competitive atmosphere and his motto is to nurture students and see them through the four years of the program. So, I'd be curious to hear the circumstances of any kids who some are saying were asked to pursue another field and to leave the program as well.</p>