<p>I was wondering what it would take for umich to reconsider an acceptance. 6 B-'s? 3 C's? is there a specific formula or do they go on a case to case basis?</p>
<p>Not that I'm going to let my grades drop or anything, but I don't want to drop my senior math class and a B or C might happen 2nd semester.</p>
<p>Universities rescind offers very often. I mean VERY. A significant drop in GPA (more than 0.5) will either result in probation (which will stay on your record and ruin virtually any hope of getting into a respectable graduate school or landing a good job upon graduation) or straight up explusion. My advice, relax a little but do not screw the pooch!</p>
<p>I have a quick question that is slightly off topic-If I were to drop my AP Biology class for AP Physics C, would that cause me to be rescinded? Also, should I notify them via phone or email, or should I just wait till the midterm report and report it there? Thank you all.</p>
<p>I am talking about senior year, not all four years. In other words, should an applicant be admitted with a 3.7 GPA for Freshmen-Junior years, having a 3.2 GPA or lower in core courses Senior year will cause problems. A sub 3.0 GPA in core courses will probably result in probation.</p>
<p>Being on academic probation in your freshman year will not stop you from “getting into a respectable graduate school or landing a good job upon graduation.” Many top graduate schools don’t even care about your freshman and sophomore grades, and look solely at junior/senior work.</p>
<p>Are you seriously postulating that only the “Top 10” or “Top 15” graduate schools (in which fields?) are “respectable?” Because that’s so self-evidently ludicrous it’s not worth debating.</p>
<p>And we haven’t even reached the fact that one’s statement of purpose, letters of recommendation and prior research experience are much more important to graduate school admissions than GPA or GRE scores.</p>
<p>Alright polarscribe, allow me to rephrase. Being placed in academic probation will significantly hurt one’s chances of getting into a top graduate program. Let us be honest, not many incoming freshmen at Michigan dream of one day attedning a graduate program ranked out of the top 20. I was speaking relatively.</p>
<p>As for the importance of GPA vs other factors, I agree with you. One’s GPA is only part of the equation. However, being placed on probation for doing poorly in one’s senior year of high school will not impact the college GPA. However, it will cast doubt on a person’s reliability. Take your typical top 15 MBA program or Law school or Medical school. They accept anywhere between 4% and 20% of applicants. Typically, most of those students have 3.5+ GPAs in college and score in the 95%ile or higher on the LSAT/GMAT/MCAT etc… I am fairly certain that the words “academic probabation” will not sit well in many an adcom. Yes, essays, experience and recommendations also play important roles, but so does reliability.</p>
<p>Nonsense. I’ve sat on three different adcoms at very top graduate schools in my field. We read each and every file very carefully, but could not care less about something like this.</p>
<p>And if ‘rescinding’ is so common how come I’ve not yet seen one firsthand report of it on CC? Everyone tells a story of ‘someone they heard’ it happened to. Doesn’t count. It is ridiculously overhyped.</p>
<p>You think being put on academic probation for the first semester of one’s freshman year of college based on their high school grades is seriously going to affect someone’s chances of getting into a graduate program?</p>
<p>I suggest to you that you haven’t had enough conversations with graduate faculty members.</p>
<p>“We read each and every file very carefully, but could not care less about something like this.”</p>
<p>starbright, my experience differs from yours. I have observed that adcoms at top graduate programs are faced with so many qualified condidates that any little detail can result in the rejection of an applicant. Obviously, a candidate that walks on water would be chosen over a weak candidate, regardless of probation. But once weaker applicants are weeded out, adcoms will typically look at the details of the remaining candidates, all of which have near perfect credentials / research / experience / essays / recommendations / GPA / standadizes test scores etc… Although I have not served on an adcom myself, several family members have at prominent programs such as Michigan Engineering, MIT Engineering and Columbia MBA. The term “academic probation” generally raises red flags.</p>
<p>“And if ‘rescinding’ is so common how come I’ve not yet seen one firsthand report of it on CC?”</p>
<p>CC is not indicative of the real world. And by “common”, I was again speaking relatively. It’s not like hundreds of students are rescinded from Michigan each year. But there are cases where a decline in grades senior year causes a university to overturn its decision. Now like you, I have not seen it first hand. Of the 70 or so students who went to Michigan from the UAE over the last 6 years, not a single one was rescinded. Then again, none of them had a significant drop in grades. I saw to it that they were all aware of the need to maintain their grades and their senior report never presented a significant drop in performance. However, ending 12th grade with a sub 3.0 GPA could lead to probation. 2 of the students I mentioned above were sent letters by the university asking them why their grades had dropped in specific subjects. The letter clearly stated that if no legitimate reason could be offered, that their status at the university could be altered. Neither was placed on probation because they followed the British system and in the end, all that mattered was the result on their A level exams, but the letter was very real.</p>
<p>I was told by admissions when I was accepted that I needed to worry if I got 2 or more Cs. I had one B- my last semester and was essentially laughed at for worrying about it when I called. YMMV.</p>
<p>“I suggest to you that you haven’t had enough conversations with graduate faculty members.”</p>
<p>Polarscribe, I have not conducted a thorough study on the subject. I donpt have to. It is common sense. The few graduate admissions committee members I have spoken to have told me that they will seldom accept an applicant with academic probabtion on their record. According to them, there are sufficient highly qualified candidates to choose from without having to resort ot damaged goods. There are exceptional cases of course, students who have unusual talent, but for the majority, academic probation is a dark mark that will be held against them when it comes to graduate admissions to the most selective programs. It is common knowledge that Medical and Law school admissions have zero margin for error. Have you known a student who was placed on academic probation and somehow ended up enrolling into a top 20 graduate program?</p>