Retake Math LII to get an 800 is applying to top schools?

<p>I probably got a 770+ on today's test, but most likely not an 800. If I didn't get an 800, should I retake it because I want to apply to schools like MIT (especially), Harvard, Princeton, Stanford (especially), etc?
Wouldn't a math/science school like MIT expect an 800?
And do colleges know that you retake it? Do they know what score you got the first time?
Thanks!</p>

<p>EDIT: lol the title should be when, not is... hahaha I'm tired from taking the test today.</p>

<p>dud that test 2day was maaaaaad hard i hope broke 700 so harrrd</p>

<p>yes they see it and i don't think you should retake it though im in a similar predicament myself... i think i'm going to retake if i am below 750</p>

<p>same boat, more thoughts? From the scoring method, an 800 and a 790 could be very different depending on how many you missed for the 800. 790 means you missed at least 7, while 800 could be missed 6 or 0.</p>

<p>for MIT, 800 is probably neccesary. For the other schools, 770 is fine</p>

<p>Thanks for the advice. Is there a graph somewhere of the average SATII scores for MIT?</p>

<p>EDIT: And should I cancel this test? I'm almost 100% sure I got a 750+, and most likely 770+. Does canceling look worse than taking it twice?</p>

<p>They don't see that you cancelled a score. It would be as if you never took it.</p>

<p>Average SAT II's for MIT are likely 750+ math/science, 700+ other.</p>

<p>I thought raw score of 45 would give 800? That means either 5 omits or 4 wrongs</p>

<p>What about Penn (Wharton)? Is 800 needed on Math II?</p>

<p>wait..they can see when you retake these exams???</p>

<p>do u guys think the curve is going to be lower than 45 raw = 800</p>

<p>well everyone here says it was pretty hard, so I would really hope. Maybe if we're REALLY lucky -8 could be an 800. But a doubt it. Realistically they'd push it down to -7=800</p>

<p>The curve for the official test in the CB Blue Subject Test book was 44/50 = 800, so this one will probably be around 42/50 cause of the highly increased difficulty.</p>

<p>^^That is VERY nice to hear.</p>

<p>All the people from my school thought it was easier than normal, not much harder than normal..</p>

<p>800 is not needed for anywhere. 750+ is enough to qualify as an applicant at the mentioned schools. More important will be your grades and activities. For MIT try to do some research and win awards if possible that is what they value most.</p>

<p>^same.....</p>

<p>I thought the test was overall easy with some exceptions...and some stupid mistakes that I made.</p>

<p>"try to win awards"</p>

<p>easily said than done.. for us newbies, where do we even start?
my school doesn't even offer science olympiad</p>

<p>yeah i need help on this too. Basically our school offers AMCs and thats about it. There might be more but im really not weel informed><</p>