<p>For all your current Biz-econ students (and recent grads as well), please give me your most complete review of the major as a whole. </p>
<p>*I've heard that many dislike the major<a href="that's%20about%20as%20much%20as%20I%20know%20about%20ppl's%20opinion%20of%20Biz%20Econ">/B</a>, **why so? Or why not? *</p>
<p>How are job opportunities? How's recruiting? How well is your degree respected by prospective employers? I have contacted the Econ Department's "Career Specialist" about this, but I want some words from ppl who have been through the process.</p>
<p>Is coursework hard? And if so, how hard? Compared to other majors?</p>
<p>Now to those of you that might tell me to not stress so much about prestige and job opportunities and focus on choosing a school that I truly enjoy, I would just like to say that I am completely cool with UCLA's campus life and setting. Same with Berkeley's (admitted, intending to major in Econ). I just want some concrete advice/suggestion to help me decide between these two great schools. Thx for your helP!!!</p>
<p>I’m not Biz-econ, but the main reason it’s “disliked” is that it’s not really a business degree. It’s basically econ and accounting combined. I can’t tell you much about job opportunities, except that I know a 3rd year that’s had a couple internships and will intern at a Big 4 firm next year (probably getting a job at graduation).</p>
<p>If you’re going to major in Econ at Berkeley, Biz-econ here probably would be similar.</p>
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<li> Its really disliked for 2 reasons. A. It’s not a business major, its Econ w/ Accounting. Many students simply choose the major because of the name without doing any research. B. The Econ program at UCLA is very theoretical and deals more with why than how (as in theory instead of application). See this, difference between business and economics - <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/other-college-majors/257006-economics-business-major.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/other-college-majors/257006-economics-business-major.html</a></li>
<li>Job opportunities are here, recruiting his here, and of course a UCLA degree is well respected, very well respected (BizEcon is very well respected by the Big 4). It’s really up to you, the opportunity is here, but can you succeed within in (as in getting a good GPA)</li>
<li>I can’t compare coursework. I didn’t transfer and don’t plan on switching majors. Plus, its all subjective. A person good in math will choose a subject heavily math reliant. A person good with analzying finite information will do Accounting, etc…</li>
<li> I would not go to Berkeley for Econ. In the view of many, Econ is the fallback major for those who don’t get accepted into Haas (at UCLA, the fallback major for those not in BizEcon is Econ - the disparity is much less). I would also not go to Berkeley because I hate San Francisco and the Bay Area. I hate the weather, I hate the city, I hate the general atmosphere.</li>
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<p>Hmm. True, From what I’ve heard, Econ is a big fallback major for Haas rejects. BUT that doesn’t make its Econ dept bad–wouldn’t you say Berkeley’s Econ dept is pretty well respected?</p>
<p>How does UCLA’s econ department stack up to those of other top schools?</p>
<p>You are trying WAAAAY to hard. Seriously, you are trying to do a comparison like someone trying to compare the taste of Dr. Pepper and Diet Dr. Pepper.</p>
<p>Since you seem to be so damn nitpicky, I will give you my answer. I believe Econ at UCLA is more respected than at Berkeley for the point noted above, that Econ is typically the fallback for Haas rejects, but that’s just my opinion and both are well respected. </p>
<p>Just relax, choose a school you like for other reasons other than making a chart of miniscule academic pros and cons, and enjoy your senior year. I wish I could go back to the summer of 2009, best summer of my life.</p>
<p>UCLA and Berkeley have the same Econ rankings as their Business Rankings. In regards to Graduate study, both are #14 and #6 respectively. However, I’d probably say UCLA Business Econ is more respected than Berkeley Econ because of the harsh grade standards. Berkeley Econ is more respected than UCLA Econ.</p>
<p>Well, I’m weighing these miniscule academic pros and cons because to be honest, I’ve visited both campuses multiple times and like them both very much for non-academic reasons–its really a dead tie for me. </p>
<p>and btw, Binks109:</p>
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<p>Everyone knows that it’s no **** that Dr. Pepper tastes better.</p>
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<li>Dislike the major because it’s 1) too theoretical 2) 90% of the professors I’ve had are terrible. Management is okay. (McDevitt is overrated btw) 3) class sizes are enormous even for UD </li>
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<p>-In terms of job opportunities, bizecon+accounting minor prepares you well if you want to go to the accounting route. If you’re more into finance, I’d highly suggest going to Berkeley instead.</p>
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<li>Econ 11/101/103 are the most challenging classes. After those, it’s not too bad.</li>
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<p>In sum, if career is important to you, go to Berkeley. You’ll probably be more more miserable there, but at least you’ll have more opportunities.</p>
<p>Package UCLA Biz Econ + UCLA Business Association (Elite Group at ucla) will open many doors for you.</p>
<p>I really disagree with the notion that UCLA Biz Econ is highly theoretical. Maybe if you are taking classes in the most popular class list.</p>
<p>As for me, I took a load of eccentric, less-than-15 students per class, highly demanding presentation-embedden, business-oriented, and quite brutally vibrant classes, which many of my peers and classmates shunned for other much easier “GPA” booster classes. Granted, there arent many GPA booster classes in Biz Econ field.</p>
<p>Just a reminder: Getting a degree will not get you anywhere. While I do understand where you are coming from, since I was also there at age 18, setting aside the most important variable of personal experience and personal initiative taken OUTSIDE the classroom and comparing the raw aspects of different majors at different schools will not give you an accurate prediction of your future likelihood of success or even job prospect.</p>
<p>You have to “pack in” interships, work experience, network, some good fortune during interviews, social leadership, soft skills, and other intangile variables inside the empty box covered with the so-called label of “Business Econ” diploma. Otherwise, you will only get…yes, only an empty box freshly minted with the fancy title of UCLA and biz econ withouth any pragmatic use.</p>
<p>I am sorry for being too vague here, but the truth is that there are just too many variables in the equation that fails to justify the simple comparison of mere major and school names.</p>
<p>Probably ‘Econ History’. I don’t see how that class can contain any real Econ in it…</p>
<p>However, courses can vary from professor to professor. You should always look up each professor on Bruinwalk. Sometimes, they even have useful grade distributions.</p>
<p>First, take as many SEMINAR classes as possible. The classes are demanding and intense, I must warn you. They only take about 10-13 students, and professors throw at you all sorts of academic tools. Attendance is a must. You need to prepare 15 minute presentation for the mid term. You have to write a research paper. You might be given assignments that require heavy use of MS Excel and its quantitiative tools. You have to dissect some business trend. You have to critique your peer’s presentation and value system. You also have to go to the front and give 20 minute speech on some findings. You also have to go and talk to your professor on a regular basis about your progress in the class.</p>
<p>Sitting around the round table for “Management Strategies in a Changing World” (I think this is the correct name for the Freshman Seminar I took), a group of eight students talked, discussed, shouted, and vehemently decried for two and an half hours each day.</p>
<p>This class basically set the tone for my undergraduate education. Had I not accidently selected this course out of mere curiosity, I would have easily been just another face in the crowd, simply attending a huge lecture classes and taking only midterm and final exams for my grade.</p>
<p>Another class I would recommend is Managerial Finance Course, formerly taught at the Anderson MBA school.</p>
<p>Go look up your schedule of classes, and you should be able to find many courses under the name of “SEMINAR”.</p>
<p>Man, the seminar class is the way to go. It is the most comprehensive package of dynamic learning protocol.</p>