Rice vs. UT Austin Chem or Mech Engineering Undergrad.

<p>I am have a VERY hard time deciding where I should go for university. I am stuck between UT and Rice for chemical engineering or mechanical engineering and I need some help deciding.</p>

<p>Breakdown:</p>

<p>Rice will cost 48K (housing included) per year and UT will cost 20K per year (housing included). I don't really like UT due to size and I feel I won't get any personal attention there but I will have to take out 40-50K worth of loans to go to Rice. Also, UT's engineering program is ranked MUCH better than Rice but I am not sure if that actually means anything. I am also a bit concerned due to UT's huge budget cuts since I REALLY want to do research during undergrad, get a great deal of well-paid job offers, and then get into a great graduate school (tall order, I know). Sadly I didn't get into UT's Engineering Honors program which makes me even more stumped. </p>

<p>Please help!</p>

<p>Can anybody add please?</p>

<p>I’ve already given you lots to think about on the other board, SchoolAdvice. One thing I forgot to add is that you shouldn’t feel bad that you didn’t get into the honors program. It is very hard to even get into the engineering school at UT. The honors program is REALLY competitive. I’ve read that you need a 1500+ on SAT W+CR to get in (that’s hearsay, though, so it could be wrong). There really isn’t much of an advantage to the honors program, anyway. It was actually a disadvantage for me, because I was in honors physics with these brilliant guys who ruined the curve, lol! I made a 45 on my first exam, which was also my first in college. After being a straight A+ student in HS, that was quite a shock. I think I ended up with a C that semester. I wound up with a 3.8+ undergraduate GPA, though, so a couple of low grades won’t kill you.</p>

<p>Thanks for the assurance. :)</p>

<p>How hard is it to get a solid GPA in engineering at both these schools for mech or chem engineering? Is it harder to maintain over a 3.5 at either of these schools compared to the other? I heard Rice has a brutally hard system even compared to UT? I am willing to work a lot, but I also want sleep and don’t want to work into the late hours of the night every night :S. Is either easier in this sense at UT? I really want to graduate in 4 years with a good GPA so I get a good starting job.Though UT is by no means easy, is it easier than Rice? I come from the IB diploma program in high school and have take a few AP classes online alongside this as well and I have had to work to do well. Am I in trouble at either school for doing well?</p>

<p>From reading all your posts, SA, I honestly think you would do fine at either school. I don’t know much about Rice, so I really can’t compare the two schools. I guess you’d have to find somebody that went to one of the schools and had a close friend at the other to make a comparison.</p>

<p>Don’t worry, you’ll get sleep! Organize your time well and work efficiently. Believe me, I had plenty of time to have fun. I probably did too much partying, actually! Remember, you’re not in class as many hours as you were in high school. There’s more time during the day to study or do homework.</p>

<p>I think my main advice for you is to RELAX!! You are so worried about so many things that you’re tying yourself up into knots. YOU WILL DO FINE!!</p>

<p>I think I can offer a unique perspective: back in 2008, I got into both of these schools and was in a similar predicament. I’m now a semester away from graduating from UT Austin’s aerospace engineering program (yes, the honors one).</p>

<p>For me, it came down to cost–flat out, Rice is NOT worth the extra money, from an investment standpoint. Indeed, it is lower-ranked (yes that does matter) and Rice will not get you a better salary–UT has better career-oriented resources and a wider footprint among prospective employers. Rice is, no doubt, a BEAUTIFUL campus, and like you, I felt I wouldn’t get along well at a 50,000-student school. Three years later, I can tell you that school is what you make it–UT can offer you as anonymous or as personalized an environment as you wish to make it; perhaps at UT, you just have to try harder not to blend into the crowd of students.</p>

<p>Don’t sweat the honors program–it’s a joke; I don’t even list it on my resume, because UT doesn’t require anything special from its “honors” engineering students. It’s a meaningless title. As far as research, I’m sure there are great opportunities at both schools–at UT, it’s not hard to become involved, although paid undergraduate research is elusive; “research” mostly means doing grunt work on your own time for a professor. As far as the “great deal of well-paid job offers,” that’s not a given ANYWHERE, but UT is as good a place to put on your resume as any (outside of MIT/Stanford/Caltech, perhaps), and I can tell you that with a high GPA comes opportunity. It’s got an extensive alumni network, so you’re much more likely to meet a Longhorn fan than an Owls fan in the professional/recruiting world. I’ve had coworkers from Rice–they’re great people, but it’s sort of sad knowing that they pay three times as much in tuition to end up in the same place…</p>

<p>If you’re concerned about the rigor of the programs at either school, well, you probably should be. I’ll likely graduate with a 3.8+, but it’s a LOT of work; it’s not uncommon for people here to pull all-nighters, so if you want sleep, don’t try to graduate early (that was my mistake!). I’m sure it’s hard at both schools, and when you choose engineering for a major, well, you’re choosing a much more difficult path than nearly any of your peers. Personally, although UT has afforded me a couple engineering internships and an engineering job here on campus, I’m defecting to the financial sector this summer and am rather excited at the prospect of getting away from engineering altogether–it’s really for the people who love it unconditionally.</p>

<p>So, my vote = UT Austin. Rice is great (and congrats on your acceptance), but it’s just not worth the money in my book, and certainly not worth the debt. Let us know what you choose.</p>

<p>3.8 GPA and graduating early? Wow, great job man. So what part of the country is the financial job in? Is it IB or what?</p>

<p>I’m just doing an analyst internship in Dallas in commercial banking, but perhaps it’s a gateway/foot-in-the-door to investment banking in a more glamorous city. By “one semester away,” I mean I’m graduating in December.</p>

<p>That’s another good thing about UT–it’s top-ten in several disciplines (not just engineering), so it’s easy to gain an education in whatever you’re interested in. Changing majors and taking cross-discipline classes is made easier when you’re schools good at pretty much everything.</p>

<p>Why anyone would take on an extra 25K+ a year in debt to major in engineering at Rice over UT or A&M is beyond me.</p>

<p>He stated that he wanted to transition to finance in an earlier post.</p>