<p>Macalester (St. Paul, MN) and UW-Madison (which is FREE and i would be in some tiny program that would make it sort of like a small lac in a big university). thoughts?</p>
<p>I would go UW-Madison...easily</p>
<p>any specific reason?</p>
<p>It depends how much money you will end up having to spend for Rice... how willing your parents are to contribute to your education...how much it will effect their retirement options... what you are hoping to find in an undergraduate experience...etc.. Rice is a great place and just can't be beat in a lot of ways; if cost is not a significant factor, I'd choose Rice for my kid.</p>
<p>well rice and mac would be the same amount...more than uw, but my parents said that they would pay it and not to let it factor into my decision. but still...free is free, so im conflicted</p>
<p>Rice... man!</p>
<p>UW-Madison for free? That's insane. That's such a great school (and the kids are really cool). Unless Rice gives you a great package, the deal should be sealed with the small honors program.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
<p>UW-Madison</p>
<p>Rice, any day of the week</p>
<p>Ive read you want to go to Rice for English or Psych... well... Wisconsin has a better program for grads/undergrads in both departments, so even at full price it'd be silly to turn down.</p>
<p>RICE ANY DAY OF THE WEEK</p>
<p>U WISCONSIN - great school, but not anything compared to Rice</p>
<p>Rice has 750 per class, Wisconsin about 7,000</p>
<p>how many in at Harvard law</p>
<p>Rice - 17
Wisconsin - 4</p>
<p>do the math</p>
<p>That's a pretty bad analysis of why one school is better than another.</p>
<p>First, Wisconsin has about 6K/class</p>
<p>Second, unlike Rice, Wisconsin students have a world class law school on their campus where many students go. Since you know nothing about the area, you'd should know that students who graduate from Wisconsin's law school don't have to take the bar. Why leave? Also, those who wish to stay in the upper midwest have Minnesota nearby another top law school. </p>
<p>Third, this is quite silly. Representation does not prove anything. Correlation is not causation. A high LSAT score and GPA from either school will get you into top law schools, there is not going to be much difference. I think this is misleading advice that you are giving.</p>
<p>Fourth, Wisconsin actually have more than 4, and besides, Brigham Young University has 24. That must mean that BYU is a better school, right? At other top schools, Wisconsin sends many students each year (Chicago is especially popular)</p>
<p>Continuing, the OP is looking to go into a liberal arts education for which the departments, resources, and professors all are better (which I base off any English/Psych ranking). That is what will matter most, not a random selection from one top law school.</p>
<p>Also, if random stats are okay, then I guess Wisconsin is a better school since it produces the most CEOs of Fortune 500 companies (now of course not, but it is silly to compare schools on one stat)</p>
<p>Finally, The University of Wisconsin is FREE</p>
<p>I believe Transfer just released his hammer of grammer.</p>
<p>owned.</p>
<p>Rice has UT Austin Law School, which is ranked pretty high (~15).</p>
<p>excellent responses... (although I do agree about the UT thing)</p>
<p>UT-Austin law school is in Austin, and not affiliated with Rice, a private University. Please go visit Rice, and then decide what you want in a college. I think the opportunities at Rice are boundless, and the amount of professorial attention and support you can get there, incredible. But it is something you must decide for yourself - and our little posts won't and shouldn't make much of a difference. :)</p>
<p>UW also has more Nobel winners. Even a two timer. UW English has the top short story writer in the US and a top poet. Psychology is Top 10 in the US. Many of the greats in psychology have been at UW over the years.</p>
<p>the atmospheres are very different...</p>
<p>I agree with serge. Rice and UW are so different in type, size, climate, etc. that they're nearly impossible to compare in terms of which is "better". Apples/oranges, dogs/cats. Not so much a question of good-better as of personal preferences. A wider range of opportunities at UW, but more concentrated attention at Rice. Unless money really is absolutely no problem, perhaps think ahead in financial terms. If you think you'll want to do a graduate degree in a field for which you'll have to pay tuition (i.e. in which TA spots and/or RA jobs that waive tuition are hard to get), the money saved by attending UW could be used for that. Other than that consideration, I'd say you have two very good and very different choices, and only you can make the choice, after visiting both and getting a feel for them.</p>