<p>Great car! When I first got my license I was given a completely restored '77 911 and it was heaven! Not to bash, but I'd take a classic any day over a new one.... you see the new ones all the time but how many gorgeous classics do you see?!?! Unfortunetly it was stolen and never recovered. I haven't found one like it(well, I haven't really looked)...now I drive an old woman's car LOL!</p>
<p>I'll see if I can find a pic.</p>
<p>very nice. How old are you? Seem kinda old but maybe its just me?</p>
<p>I'm gonna be sportin mine all over. Mine is the dark grey with black interior. I got thecarbon fiber steering wheel, shifter, pedals and some other stuff.</p>
<p>God man ladies go absolutely head over heels when they see a hot young guy driving that thing. </p>
<p>Not just girls but people come to me everyday complimenting the car. </p>
<p>Hahahah... I think we aren't going to have problems getting the girls.</p>
<p>That new Ferrari F430 looks mighty sick. They took the design elements right off the Enzo. She is supposed to be fast but I think the Turbo w/ X50 might have a chance at keepin it a close race.</p>
<p>Also if you are going to college or are already there make sure when you drive and see people looking at the car that you take note of all the hot girls that look your way. Perfect chick magnet...</p>
<p>I wouldn't date a guy if he used an expensive car to pick me up. We obviously wouldn't have much in common...Then again, I'm not a hot girl, what do I know?</p>
<p>anovice, I love old Porsches. One day, I want to buy a 1984 3.6 Turbo and modify it, by myself. Its such an amazing car!!! And bathtub Porsches are amazing too!</p>
<p>Dunkaroo, I am 17, don't worry, everyone thinks I look old... I usually trick the new freshman into thinking that I am a teacher, and I proceed to give them detention slips ;).</p>
<p>The only chicks my car attracts are the insecure ones that only want me for my money... not the kind that I would like to have, which is why when I take a girl on a date, I usually take her in my land rover. Although, its always nice to get a girl or two, lol. </p>
<p>Yeah, the F430 is awesome... I will tell your more about it once my father gets his. He has his name down for an F430 Spider, so he won't get his for around another two years, but he can wait.</p>
<p>What year is your Turbo?</p>
<p>blingin 2005</p>
<p>Nice... is the navigation DVD or CD based?</p>
<p>And does your car say Turbo on the tach?</p>
<p>yup DVD based Nav and Turbo on tach. It is absoultely gorgeous. I don't have any pics sorry but it isn't too different then yours except for a few minor interior differences and a little exterior stuff.</p>
<p>I am guessing you don't have nav... as it was only available on the S models for '05.</p>
<p>the 84 Turbo came only with a 3.3 liter.</p>
<p>****... I ment the 1994 964 Turbo 3.6...</p>
<p>yeah I got it installed aftermarket it is pretty sweet.</p>
<p>So you did not have nav when you got the car, and installed it later?</p>
<p>Cool, what company of NAV systems did you go with?</p>
<p>you have to go with Alpine the best in car entertainment. I actually got it done right after I picked up the car. I drove it straight to the audio place to get the nav installed.</p>
<p>So, no nav on the car then when you first got it?</p>
<p>And Alpine is good, but no touchscreen.</p>
<p>thats right no Nav with the original car. However, I got Alpine's top of the line nav/dvd system. It flips out of the dash and has a remote control as well as touchscreen. Definetely look into it if you don't have a nav in your car and are thinking about getting one.</p>
<p>One suggestion is to look in the old discussion forums for some analysis Mini has done looking at the % of kids on financial aid and % of kids receiving Pell grants. Very interesting reading ... and definitely effects the schools I'll suggest my kids investigate. Right now I'm spacing the name ... "The Entitlement Index"? Can anyone help with the name?</p>
<p>Here are the two posts - note that they deal with the years 2002-2003:</p>
<p>I began this inquiry because I was simply trying to find a way to quantify the experience of my daughter. She visited a number of small liberal arts colleges and, despite similarities in academic programs and resources, admissions policies (at least on paper), and even perceptions of URMs on campus, she felt huge differences in campus feel, not all of which were easily attributable to school policies or locations (except as they impacted who attended.) </p>
<p>It was simpler for me to see the difference. Having attended Williams back in the Paleozoic Era, but coming from a far lower economic bracket than the overwhelming majority of students, I remember the differences in the way many students perceived the world, (what I think of as their inner sense of Entitlement), and their actual experience of it: the kinds of cars they drove (and whether they had cars at all), the clothes they wore, the discretionary income they had on campus, the sports they participated in, where they went for winter and spring break, the kinds of summer jobs they had (and whether they carried an on-campus job at all), how well traveled they were, whether they were fluent in other languages, whether they assumed they could afford expensive professional schools after college. There were also differences in alcohol and drug use (theirs tended to be higher, but no fixed rule), and academic preparation (theirs tended to be better, but no fixed rule.) As we visited campuses, I was still able to perceive these differences (and better able to describe them than I could then.) I received a GREAT education at Williams, for which I remain thankful to this day, but I cant make believe that I didnt feel those differences while I was there.</p>
<p>So I wondered whether these differences could be quantified or indexed. And they can, of course. The first difference is whether students attended private schools. Now of course there are many kinds of private schools: elite boarding schools, religious day schools, private academies (especially in the South, many of them initially set up to avoid integration, but having long outlived that purpose, and offering excellent educations). But what they all have in common is that (for the vast majority of students) families pay for them. It is a big commitment.</p>
<p>The second difference is whether students received any need-based assistance (grants or loans) from the institution. Today, there is often a vast difference in experience between a student coming from a family that can afford $168k for four years of college education, and a student coming from the average American family, income $43k, with total assets of around $55k (plus house, if they have one.) To imagine that this wouldnt find expression in student attitudes would be strange. Students are not to blame for them (hey, theres nothing necessarily worth blaming!) all I am trying to do is find a way to quantify experience.)</p>
<p>So, for what its worth:</p>
<p>ENTITLEMENT INDEX AMONG 50 TOP (according to USNWR) LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGES</p>
<p>The first number represents the percentage of students who were admitted from private schools. The second number represents the percentage of students who do not receive need-based financial aid from the institution. The final number is the Entitlement (preppy) Index score. Numbers are taken from the most recent Princeton Review.</p>
<ol>
<li> Davidson 52/67 119</li>
<li> Washington and Lee 40/73 113</li>
<li> Trinity 57/53 119</li>
<li> Bates 48/60 108</li>
<li> Middlebury 45/60 105</li>
<li> Kenyon 46/59 105</li>
<li> Williams 46/58 104</li>
<li> Univ. of the South 48/55 103</li>
<li> Connecticut 48/54 102</li>
<li>Colby 40/60 100</li>
<li>Skidmore 40/58 98</li>
<li>Bowdoin 43/55 98</li>
<li>Furman 39/57 96</li>
<li>Haverford 39/57 96</li>
<li>Amherst 44/52 96</li>
<li>Wesleyan 44/52 96</li>
<li>Barnard 47/48 95</li>
<li>Swarthmore 40/51 91</li>
<li>Pomona 40/49 89</li>
<li>Whitman 30/58 88</li>
<li>Scripps 37/51 88</li>
<li>Franklin & Marshall 34/53 87</li>
<li>Colgate 30/56 86</li>
<li>Colorado 30/55 85</li>
<li>Dickinson 38/47 85</li>
<li>Sarah Lawrence 31/51 82</li>
<li>Hamilton 40/42 82</li>
<li>Vassar 34/47 81</li>
<li>Wellesley 37/43 80</li>
<li>Denison 30/49 79</li>
<li>Lafayette 32/46 76</li>
<li>Oberlin 34/42 76</li>
<li>Bryn Mawr 38/38 76</li>
<li>Bucknell 26/49 75</li>
<li>Union 27/48 75</li>
<li>Gettysburg 30/44 74</li>
<li>Claremont-McKenna 27/44 71</li>
<li>Carleton 25/45 71</li>
<li>Smith 26/44 70</li>
<li>Occidental 30/39 69</li>
<li>Bard 30/38 68</li>
<li>Mount Holyoke 38/30 68</li>
<li>Agnes Scott 30/36 66</li>
<li>Harvey Mudd 20/45 65</li>
<li>Macalester 34/31 65</li>
<li>Depauw 17/42 59</li>
<li>Centre 21/36 57</li>
<li>Grinnell 13/40 53</li>
<li>Wabash 8/30 38</li>
</ol>
<p>Incomplete data from Holy Cross and Rhodes. Tie-breaker is percentage of students who do not received need-based aid.</p>
<p>If youve visited a lot of these campuses, youd likely not find many surprises in this data. The only clear generalizations to be made are that, on the whole, midwestern schools do not seem attractive to private school students (or they simply arent accepted which I find unlikely), and southern schools (with the exception of Agnes Scott) offer (or need to offer) significantly less than average in terms of need-based aid. One caveat that must be attached to the data is that some schools (some that I know of for sure are Bard, Mount Holyoke, Smith, and Macalester) offer merit-based aid to significant portions of their entering class (as much as 10%) some of those students, upon receiving the merit aid award, no longer qualify for need-based aid, and hence wouldnt appear in this picture.</p>
<p>This data picture as always is incomplete. While it reflects entitlement on the campus as above, it does not reflect the impact on campus feel of low-income students. A school could offer lots of rather small need-based grants to attract students away from the competition, without really changing the make up or feel of the campus. (Macalester has a reputation for doing this whether it is just or not, I have no idea.) One way to correct for that is to subtract the percentage of students on Pell Grants (with family incomes below 35% of the national average) from the total. All of a sudden, the extremes become more extreme, and the picture (I believe) more clear.</p>
<p>Numbers Represent the Entitlement Index minus Pell Grant Shares:</p>
<ol>
<li> Davidson 119-6 113</li>
<li> Washington and Lee 113-3 110</li>
<li> Trinity 119-13 106</li>
<li> Bates 108-9 99</li>
<li> Middlebury 105-8 97</li>
<li> Kenyon 105-8 97</li>
<li> Williams 104-9 95</li>
<li> Colby 100-7 93</li>
<li> Connecticut 102-11 91</li>
<li>Univ. of the South 103-13 90</li>
<li>Bowdoin 98-10 88</li>
<li>Furman 96-9 87</li>
<li>Skidmore 98-13 85</li>
<li>Haverford 96-13 83</li>
<li>Wesleyan 96-14 82</li>
<li>Amherst 96-16 80</li>
<li>Whitman 88-9 79</li>
<li>Swarthmore 91-13 78</li>
<li>Franklin & Marshall 87-9 78</li>
<li>Barnard 95-18 77</li>
<li>Pomona 89-12 77</li>
<li>Colgate 86-10 76</li>
<li>Scripps 88-14 74</li>
<li>Dickinson 85-12 73</li>
<li>Sarah Lawrence 82-12 70</li>
<li>Vassar 81-12 69</li>
<li>Colorado 85-17 68</li>
<li>Lafayette 76-8 68</li>
<li>Hamilton 82-15 67</li>
<li>Denison 79-12 67</li>
<li>Wellesley 80-16 64</li>
<li>Bucknell 75-12 63</li>
<li>Gettysburg 74-12 62</li>
<li>Bryn Mawr 76-15 61</li>
<li>Carleton 71-10 61</li>
<li>Union 75-15 60</li>
<li>Oberlin 76-17 59</li>
<li>Claremont-McKenna 71-15 56</li>
<li>Harvey Mudd 65-12 53</li>
<li>Macalester 65-15 50</li>
<li>Bard 68-20 48</li>
<li>Mount Holyoke 68-21 47</li>
<li>Depauw 59-13 46</li>
<li>Smith 70-24 46</li>
<li>Occidental 69-27 42</li>
<li>Agnes Scott 66-26 40</li>
<li>Grinnell 53-13 40</li>
<li>Centre 57-18 39</li>
<li>Wabash 38-19 19</li>
</ol>
<p>Make of the data what you will. It is just data. I may get around to the national universities later.</p>
<p>So, to continue .</p>
<p>Again, I dont have a particular ax to grind with these numbers (unlike the Pell Grant share numbers, where I did I think schools would be better schools if they had greater economic diversity.) I am just finding a way to quantify that portion of campus feel that might be attributable to students feelings of entitlement (which, as previously, makes itself felt in everything from cars on campus, to winter and summer vacations, to sports played, to expectations of being able to afford expensive professional schools upon graduation.)</p>
<p>Entitlement (preppy) Index for 50 Top (according to USNWR) National Private Universities</p>
<p>First number represents percentage of enrolled students who came from private schools. Second number represents percentage of enrolled students who receive no need-based financial aid from the institution. Tie-breaker is the second number. Numbers taken from most recent edition of Princeton Review:</p>
<ol>
<li> Georgetown 53/59 112</li>
<li> Notre Dame 50/60 110</li>
<li> Yale 47/60 107</li>
<li> Vanderbilt 40/62 102</li>
<li> Tufts 43/59 102</li>
<li> Univ. of Penn 43/58 101</li>
<li> Johns Hopkins 40/60 100</li>
<li> Brown 40/60 100</li>
<li> Princeton 45/54 99</li>
<li>Duke 34/64 98</li>
<li>Boston College 40/58 98</li>
<li>Emory 35/62 97</li>
<li>Washington U. 39/55 94</li>
<li>Dartmouth 38/53 91</li>
<li>USC 39/51 90</li>
<li>Georgia Tech 18/71 88</li>
<li>Harvard 35/52 87</li>
<li>Northwestern 27/56 83</li>
<li>Stanford 28/54 82</li>
<li>Brandeis 30/52 82</li>
<li>Lehigh 31/46 77</li>
<li>NYU 31/44 75</li>
<li>Case-Western 30/45 75</li>
<li>Univ. Chicago 30/44 74</li>
<li>CalTech 19/43 62</li>
<li>MIT 28/28 56</li>
<li>RPI 21/29 50</li>
</ol>
<p>Schools for which I have incomplete data are Rochester, Tulane, Cornell, Columbia, Rice, CMU, and Wake Forest.</p>
<p>No huge surprises in the data here. The Catholic colleges have relatively high percentages of students from private catholic high schools, but note that they are also high in percentages of students receiving no financial assistance. Unlike in the liberal arts index, the southern private universities do not show particularly high levels of private school kids (there goes that hypothesis) their high entitlement indexes are based on the fact that fewer than 40% of students receive financial assistance in other words, parents are well-heeled. Yale has a very high preppy index theres just no two ways about it. The tech schools are at the bottom of the list they take a large majority of public school kids, and they give them lots of money.</p>
<p>As in the previous note on liberal arts colleges, I modified the index to reflect the percentage of low-income (Pell Grant recipient) kids on the campus (subtracted from the entitlement index), to see if this made any difference. It does the differences between schools become more pronounced (Pell Grant share information from Mortenson, Postsecondary Educational Opportunites):</p>
<p>Modified Entitlement Index (Reflecting Pell Grant Shares) for 50 Top Private National Universities:</p>
<ol>
<li> Notre Dame 102</li>
<li> Georgetown 101</li>
<li> Yale 97</li>
<li> Vanderbilt 92</li>
<li> Princeton 92</li>
<li> Tufts 92</li>
<li> Penn 91</li>
<li> Johns Hopkins 90</li>
<li> Brown 90</li>
<li>Duke 88</li>
<li>Boston College 87</li>
<li>Washington U. 86</li>
<li>Emory 82</li>
<li>Dartmouth 80</li>
<li>Harvard 80</li>
<li>George Tech 74</li>
<li>Northwestern 73</li>
<li>Stanford 70</li>
<li>Brandeis 68</li>
<li>USC 66</li>
<li>Lehigh 64</li>
<li>Case-Western 61</li>
<li>Univ. Chicago 61</li>
<li>NYU 57</li>
<li>CalTech 47</li>
<li>MIT 44</li>
<li>RPI 31</li>
</ol>
<p>A couple of things immediately stand out first of all, besides having very high levels of entitlement, the top 3 schools on this list also have very low commitments to low-income students. The tech schools have very high commitments to them. </p>
<p>I think this list would likely mirror quite well the experience of students on campus, or a careful observer/applicant visiting. There would, however, be one exception USC. Someone on another forum asked how it could be that USC could have such a high Pell Grant share, and yet it seemed like everyone was driving a Beemer (or some such)? The answer is here: while USC gives financial aid to a relatively small percentage of students (49%) more than half of it goes to Pell Grant recipients meaning very, very large grants-in-aid to more than a quarter of the student body. In other words, it is likely a bifurcated campus with very high levels of entitlement, and also a very large percentage of low-income students. It might make for very exciting classrooms!</p>
<p>Again, data is just data. Make of it what you will.</p>
<p>Dunkaroo... stop putting your ******** on the internet. ALL 2004 and 2005 Turbo models had the navigation as standard.</p>
<p>mine didn't Carrera GT at my dealer it was an option. I think that applies to some dealers or they required you to get some package at my dealer otherwise I wasn't able to get the navigation system. So I got the aftermarket which is I think just as good if not better b/c I get to watch movies!</p>