rich prep school? SOCIAL LIFE

<p>i have heard that colgate is full of rich, preppy, atheletic republican kids.
i recently visited the campus and this sterotype seems somewhat true.</p>

<p>however, i love colgates academic program and the campus is gorgeous.</p>

<p>i was just wondering if i would fit in as a democratic, middleclass, not so preppy girl who would only be interested in intermural sports and likes to party. </p>

<p>also, could someone tell me about the presence of greek life on campus? is this life a huge part of the social scene, and if it is, are the parties and activities exclusive to greeks only?</p>

<p>I have the same concerns as laxgirl22 and would also like to know more about the social life at Colgate, especially the alternatives to Greek life.</p>

<p>that's a really unfortunate stereotype, since it drives away people that would LOVE it here. as a liberal, middle class, completely NOT preppy girl who has been to ONE sports game in all four years, i'm always disappointed to hear this repeated. laxgirl22, you'd fit in, no problem. i'll address these one at a time...</p>

<p>rich: in the class of 2011, 34.8% is on aid, with an average award of $35,345. out of $48,710, that is a LOT, and since it's all need-based (not merit-based), that indicates that people on aid actually need it and that there is a diversity of income levels. also, it's something that in my experience, isn't discussed. you may sit next to some scruffy art student everyday whose dad is worth $50 million and never know it.</p>

<p>preppy: yes, there are quite a few "preppy" students on campus. however, remember that guys in pink pants stand out a lot more than us "normal" kids, so it seems like there's more than there really are. also, in my experience at least, a lot of the preppy kids are really nice, and won't not be your friend just because you don't dress like them. there may be a few obnoxious girls who are wannabe fashionistas, but you can easily avoid them, haha.</p>

<p>athletic: true and false. by colgate definitions, you're also an athlete. 80% of kids play sports of some kind, but only 20% (of the total population) are varsity. the rest are club or intramural. if you don't do sports, since most people that do consider it just one of many activities they're involved in, no one will really care.</p>

<p>republican: i'm pretty liberal, and i'd have to say that though there are outspoken groups on both ends of the spectrum, the huge majority are moderate to slightly liberal. this is supported by unofficial facebook research that i've done. :) however, it doesn't necessarily come up very much, so you may never know if that kid in your philosophy class is secretly a male ann coulter unless you look it up on facebook. anyone who may be "republican" is probably more of a "small government republican" than a bible-toting bush devotee. we're a "conservative school" if you're comparing us to UC Berkley, Brown or Reed or something.</p>

<p>keep in mind this is all just my experience. there are probably a fair number of kids exactly like you described on campus, but there are so many more people that aren't that way that you'll find a niche where you fit in. there's a huge range of people here, and i think anyone that is willing to make even a bit of effort will find what they want.</p>

<p>lastly, greek system: it's sophomore rush, so no one can join until fall of sophomore year. all the first years live at the top of the hill together, and no one can live in greek housing until their junior year, so for most people it's just one more activity they're involved in. there are some people who throw themselves 100% into greek stuff, but that seems pretty rare, since they're typically already involved in a ton of other stuff by then.</p>

<p>around 30% overall, 40% of sophomores, juniors and seniors are involved. sounds like a lot, but since the other 60% ISN'T involved, there's more than enough people to hang out with. it can be a big part of your social scene if you want it to be. or not, if you don't. i've never been to a greek event in nearly 4 years and there's plenty to do (if you're wondering why i'm posting at midnight on saturday, my senior honors thesis is due in 17 days now...). also, i'm pretty sure all greek events have to be open to everyone. they may cost money, but they're not exclusive (except for maybe formals?). </p>

<p>alternatives: movies (a ton free on campus, 4 in town on the weekends, dvds your friends brought, etc.), concerts, events like Dancefest, Rock Band tournaments, bars in town if you're old enough, clubs and club sports may have... events hosted by upperclassmen, hanging out with your friends, dinner at any of our half a dozen pizza places or sushi, chinese, greek, etc....</p>

<p>wow that ended up longer than i thought it would be...i hope that helps?</p>

<p>There really isn't too much political activism at Colgate, unfortunately. The preppy kids really don't care enough about politics to follow it and identify themselves as republicans. If anything, their is a slightly liberal student body, and the faculty is overwhelmingly liberal.</p>

<p>thanks so much for your help! that post was relly good.
im definitley considering going there now</p>

<p>laxgirl22, im in the same situation. im a democrat, im not at all preppy, im middle class and all i am very interested in intramural sports. and im not all that too worried about fitting in. i recently visited colgate and i loved it. most of the students are preppy, but i still think it is the best college for me.</p>

<p>lydie08 has it down. Talking about money or showing off wealth is actually a taboo on this campus. We're pretty chill and accept each other for who we are (I think most of the time...). I mean, we're actually disgusted when someone looks down at other students for not being "rich" or "preppy" enough. Even kids from Westport, CT just somehow manage to blend in a bit, not as well as others. There's a columnist in the school paper who does fashion and a lot of people can't stand her articles because she basically says shop on 5th Avenue in NYC or bust.</p>

<p>Everyone does sport in one way or another, usually intermurals or club. I'm not in either because I'm more of a gymrat/runner type so the gym's usually pretty well stocked in the mornings (not insane as in late aftenroons though) and I've seen quite a few runners around who I don't think play any sports. Colgate is basically about staying fit and being healthy, wth the exception of the booze.</p>

<p>Greek life is what you make of it. I personally don't LOVE my sorority to death in the same way as a friend does with hers at another school. I have other things to worry about. Lydia08 makes a good point that the freshman year is a time for you to seek out things you actually want to get involved for the sake of being involved on campus before you rush. Every Greek is required to get involved in at least one thing anyway in order to get accredited. But from a bigger perspective, I enjoy the privileges of being in my sorority. I made some wonderful friendships with upperclassmen (now graduated) who helped me get through my sophomore and junior years at Colgate and connected me with the realities of the real world (now avoiding it with grad school!). I love the connection I have with other sorority sisters outside of Colgate (though my sorority is nationally reputated as one of the more notorious sororities but we're actually the administration's favorite). Greek life is like college life- it's what you make of it. And my closest friends are not Greek.</p>

<p>Political apathy on campus is HUGE but student groups in the last 2 years have worked hard to bring awareness to campus. One of my classmates today was complaining to me how misinformed people are about South American issues that she always feel compelled to speak up. I agree with Middle East issues too as I studied abroad in that region. Even the faculty is trying hard to give kids opportunities to see the world beyond the Northeast and western Europe by offering classes and study trips in May/June like Mexico, Denmark, and Japan.</p>

<p>Colgate is realy a wonderful school if you know how to make the most of it. I'm a graduating senior and it's pretty tough to look back on the last three years I've been here (transferred in). I'll admit that my senior year has been the toughest so far because I had my thesis and grad school applications and suffered from a huge cultural shock from abroad that it was difficult to connect with other Colgate students who couldn't comprehend the world beyond the media... But my first three semesters were fabulous- got very involved with everything and knew a lot of people and made things happen with my student groups. The academics are tough to beat, that's for sure!</p>

<p>This is probably too late for you, but as a note to everyone else still thinking about Colgate...the above posts were very misleading.</p>

<p>Not to forgo school pride or anything, but Colgate is essentially a rich, obnoxious campus. Popped collars are the norm, regardless of what anyone says. Expect to be judged by what you wear. Don't worry about politics, talking about anything related to the world outside of Colgate is actually weird. </p>

<p>That being said, if you're a "democratic, middleclass, not so preppy girl who would only be interested in intermural sports and likes to party" then you'll do fine...the one good thing about the people here is they don't care if you're rich or not. It's only if frat boys and their ilk annoy you then you'll have a tough time. There are diverse groups, but they are small and generally are pressured towards the norm. </p>

<p>Either way, trust your first impressions about Colgate. Because that's as deep as it gets. </p>

<p>Hmm....maybe i'll say something nice about Colgate for my second post...</p>

<p>Atrivan, excuse me? You're questioning my opinion on these boards? You only have ONE post and you don't mention if you've visited Colgate or go there now.</p>

<p>"Popped collars are the norm, regardless of what anyone says." </p>

<p>I like how you've appointed yourself an authority figure; discounting anyone else's opinion. When I was there, this was certainly less than 10% of the students.</p>

<p>"Not to forgo school pride or anything, but Colgate is essentially a rich, obnoxious campus."</p>

<p>I wouldn't completely discount this, although have gotten the sense that it has somewhat changed since my time. Subsequent impressions of places such as Dartmouth, Williams, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Colby, Hamilton, Trinity, Bucknell, Union are all similar in campus feel to Colgate; so unless you are making a sweeping castigation of all these schools, I would mostly disagree with this.</p>

<p>"It's only if frat boys and their ilk annoy you then you'll have a tough time."</p>

<p>The stereotypical frat boy to me has a connotation of someone in a fraternity at a southern school, which has a low overall % in fraternities, but they are in their own little world. The vast minority of Colgate is like and has even changed away from this more recently from the implementation of sophomore rush, college buying the Greek houses and a lesser % being part of a fraternity than previously, so would pretty much completely disagree. A higher % of students at Colgate may be in a fraternity than at most other schools, but they are hardly prototypical 'frat boys'.</p>

<p>for the better part of this year, our newspaper has had this he-said-she-said column about the dating situation here (or lack thereof).</p>

<p>why don't you go on Maroon</a> News and scroll through some of these to get a sense of what that's like? i think that, for the most part, they're pretty accurate.</p>

<p>maybe you weren't asking about this at all, but i figured it would give you an interesting look at our campus :)</p>

<p>wow i havent looked at this board in a while..
i have only seen the campus once, but what atrivan said certainly sticks out first. i do know that their are many other student types on campus and only a small vocal portion probably looks.acts like that. </p>

<p>i really am not sure if i like it...im taking that as a sign it just isnt the right college. ill probably apply there but not as a top choice..</p>

<p>that he/she said column is rdiculous but not as ridiculous as "minus the city." they've been doing a lot of clarifying in the last few weeks after heavy criticism by parents and prospectives.</p>

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Even kids from Westport, CT just somehow manage to blend in a bit

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<p>Ticklemepink, what's that mean? (from post #7)</p>

<p>I'm not even going to answer that because they really, really do stand out without even realizing it.</p>

<p>lol @ what ticklemepink wrote.</p>

<p>veryhappy, you'd have to see it to know.</p>

<p>VeryHappy actually lives in Westport, CT and knows lots of kids who go to Colgate. That's why she was looking for more details. :)</p>

<p>Ummmmmm -- did I scare you away? I was asking my original question seriously.</p>

<p>Oh my goodness. Then go to Colgate and take a good look around your classmates... the majority of them.</p>

<p>Actually, I'm a parent.</p>