<p>You do realize that Dartmouth and Brown are just as competitive as HYP right?</p>
<p>I don’t know an admissions office in the country that would put your ethnicity as an adverse thing. Your stats and profile are outstanding, and it is frightening that someone with such a great resume was not accepted at those schools. One guess is that your ECs, essays and recs did not garner high points in the process and you had not striking “hook” to catch their eyes. What happens often in such cases is that admissions stacks the applicants in groups with like traits, and then picks the best of each group, to keep the community diverse. What the characteristics of each grouping are, who knows other than those doing this. But I have seen applications that when reduced to the basic info are truly identical.</p>
<p>Rks: great list. I am adding College of Wooster to that list. It’s senior I.S. project is second only to Princeton. Lots of Wonderful schools beyond the Ivy League!!</p>
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<p>Such a kind and thoughtful post from a true adult. My child is one of the tens of thousands aptly described here, and while not complaining online (thank goodness), she is shocked and needing time to reprioritize.</p>
<p>First of all, I don’t know why everyone is labeling me as arrogant; I’m not arrogant. I’m shocked and upset, and there is a big difference. There’s no need to pile on remarks like “entitled” or “arrogant” on someone who has just recently been rejected from so many schools. Secondly, I’m planning to major in economics, and I have not visited any of these schools yet. I know for medicine it is best to go for the schools that are offering good scholarships, but I’m not sure if that’s the best action to take for an economics major.</p>
<p>are there any of these schools you prefer?</p>
<p>“I don’t know why everyone is labeling me as arrogant”
It is because you are an Asian.</p>
<p>Soon you will hear “Life is not fair” and “Get over it” and so on.</p>
<p>Well, I made a huge mistake by only visiting the ivies, and I have to visit these schools to see which one is more appealing. UC Berkeley is good for the sciences, but I’m not sure how good it is for economics. UCLA has contacted me several times, but again I need to visit it to make sure it’s the right fit. I got into the Rutgers honors program, and Rutgers offered full $, which is good. I don’t really prefer any of these schools, but at the moment it’s probably going to be between UC Berkeley and Carnegie Mellon because they have the best reputations. The one thing that worries me though is that both of these schools have a reputation for grade deflation. I need a really good gpa in undergrad school because I want to get into an elite grad school.</p>
<p>berkley has an amazing business school. fwiw</p>
<p>CMU is a great school, too.</p>
<p>Grad schools know who has grade deflation, and what kind of grad do you want?</p>
<p>For an MBA, the work experience is actually more important.</p>
<p>Also, how do employers consider Berkeley?</p>
<p>Yes, but the elite grad schools know that berkley has grade deflation. They take it into account.</p>
<p>I’m looking for an Ivy League school for grad school.</p>
<p>don’t get ahead of yourself, if you can help it.</p>
<p>One step at a time.</p>
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<p>Haas is considered one of the best in the country, by far.</p>
<p>poetgrl - I am impressed the way you are walking this kid thru the process and steering his mind on to the right path. </p>
<p>There are thousands of kids felt the same way as OP on the evening of 3/29. After all, OP has posted it to sought advise from veteran parents/adults here. That’s good Karma!</p>
<p>[Undergraduate</a> Program, Berkeley-Haas](<a href=“http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/]Undergraduate”>Undergraduate Program - Berkeley Haas)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.tepper.cmu.edu/index.aspx[/url]”>http://www.tepper.cmu.edu/index.aspx</a></p>
<p>These are B-schools. I don’t know about econ, though Berkely must be excellent in this area</p>
<p>Also, don’t forget to post on the actual school sites, like Rutgers, UCLA, CMU, and Cal sites.</p>
<p>“Just guessing here, but maybe an overdeveloped sense of entitlement? might have come through an essay or 2.”</p>
<p>This. Confirmed by the statement by OP: </p>
<p>“Ok so now given my options, what should I choose: decent schools like ucla uc berkeley or carnegie mellon…”</p>
<p>Decent? </p>
<p>Your arrogance was probably very much on display but likely you failed to recognize that. </p>
<p>Good luck to you wherever you decide to go. They are all excellent institutions.</p>
<p>Poetgrl, I have to say, you are a kind person. OP, there are some great suggestions being made for you here. I have heard great things about Case Western. There was someone who got rejected from Harvard last year and wrote about attending Case. A good perspective a year later, on how this person moved on from rejection.</p>
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<p>OP, I do not read all the posts. But I think you kind of know where the problem is in your very first post: You are not a part of the diverse class they want to recruit. You are ORMs for top colleges. I feel for you.</p>
<p>With this said, I want to point out that, for college application to the very top colleges, the stats (or the lack of good stats) can disqualify you but it can never get you accepted. The key is to distanguish yourself in ECs. In other word, the real battleground is in that area rather than what your standard test scores or GPAs or even your class rank is or how many AP 5’s you have. (BTW, the chess is not “hot”, but some sport other than the golf is. Heck, a recent rumor is that music instruments are hot either. Also, by declaring that you are interested in business/economics is also not “hot” – there are too many i-banking/consulting-want-to-be applicants to many top ivies.)</p>
<p>Study hard at other equally competitive colleges (in academics) and four years later, you will be in high demand. Relatively speaking, there are not so much social engineering going on in the graduate school application. (It may be another story if we are talking about professional schools but it appears you are not interested in going that direction as you still keep your innocency at your age.)</p>
<p>"My stats: sat 2330 single sitting 2370 superscore
Sat 2s: Math 2 800, chem 800, us 760
gpa uw: 3.9 w: 4.49
ap chem 5 ap calc bc 5 ap us 5 ap stat 5
Xc, track 4years
President of Chess Club
President of Business Club
National Honors Society
Math Honors Society
Founded charity that raised 1500:</p>
<p>So now let me see. You took a test a bunch of times and did well. You got a GPA that’s good (not perfect) competing against a bunch of high school kids. You were president of a club made up of a bunch of 15-17 year olds where you played chess, and you raised about as much money for a charity as a hardworking 10-year-old does selling Girl Scout cookies.</p>
<p>That’s it? You think most the applicants they accepted looked like that? Haven’t all those schools given you a single consistent message?</p>
<p>And you think it was because you’re INDIAN!!!</p>
<p>I think some of you are being a little tough on the OP. He’s (she’s) feeling frustrated and disappointed, I think that’s natural “the day after”. It seems like he’s ready to move on.</p>
<p>It’s not like he came on here calling all the Ivy adcoms racist or anything like that.</p>