<p>What about the other further away house with singles, carpeting, and private bath? I think it is called Broadview or something like that...I picked that one as my first choice and mailed my letter out after spending 20 minutes deciding. Yea, I'm impulsive at times but so far it served me well.</p>
<p>i visited snell-hitchcock today, and boy are the singles in snell small. but i hear they get bigger as the years go on. </p>
<p>i definitely am a little unsure of how to fill in the housing form. what if having a nonsmoking, neat, etc, etc, roommate are all important things to me?! and yes, i actually want a roommate...</p>
<p>i want a roommate too. and i also am not a habitual smoker but i want the option.....this should be fun. what's their policy on changing rooms if you have a serious issue with your housing situation?</p>
<p>the nonsmoking thing doesnt have to be a priority. If you say no, they WILL NOT put you in a smoking room no matter what preference you assign to it.</p>
<p>If you really want the option to have a cigarette (why the hell would you want to smoke...) just do it somewhere where it is allowed...</p>
<p>Yeah, ottothecow has a real point. If you want to smoke, you have the option to go where it's allowed, but if you live in a smoking dorm, then you don't have the option not to be around it. So unless you truly do smoke regularly, I'd think about choosing non-smoking.</p>
<p>There are a few problems with your logic, prc.</p>
<p>If being open-minded meant, as you say it is, remaining open for a period of time in order to acquire qualification for judging what is best, after which one would presumably make that judgement and become close-minded, then open-mindedness would cease to be the virtue you believe it is and become merely the means by which one attains to the greater mindset. </p>
<p>If you do believe that, after looking to see what was best, one would simply realize that everything was great,then you admit to doing exaclty what I said you did: recklessly supporting all ideas/viewpoints without any concern for anything about it. Indeed you must believe this, because you have previously said you would room me with a black homosexual to open my mind, assuming that there was something inherently wrong with my judgement and that there simply must be something worthy about them to compel me to share a room with them, even when you probably lack very much experience with black homosexuals. See: <a href="http://www.gnaa.us%5B/url%5D">http://www.gnaa.us</a></p>
<p>Thus it emerges, with the permission of Allah, as true that open-mindedness is either democratic pleasentry, the pure ignorance of what you agree is fact that there exists things better than one another, or a childlike state one remains trapped in before they acquire any awareness of the world. </p>
<p>You have also revealed your complete hypocrisy in your immediate demonization of myself as a "bigot," brutally excluding me from the inner circle of the open and declaring me unworthy of consideration of quality at all--exactly what I advocate doing to what has been seen to lack quality, in fact. </p>
<p>All liberal thinking is circular.</p>
<p>Your last mistake is failing to see that my racial statement was merely a way of showing how socially conditioned so-caled "open minded" people are so quick to dimiss anything that violates social taboo. Whether or not I actually am a racist, or if racism is a virtue or not, isn't the point--the point is that you are a dumbass. </p>
<p>Perhaps you are a very sheltered person, and have not been exposed to everything but the liberal mono-pseudo culture that pervades today, and thus currently lack the knowledge required for being open-minded. This is understandable, but others, like myself, are more perceptive and have already grown up in a place that "represents a cross section" of America. I hope that your education at Chicago might help you attain the faculties to close your mind, O unclean one.</p>
<p>ryan, i think you're not understanding what we mean by "open mind"... a closed mind is when you think you already KNOW all the answers, and don't want to even Consider other options. In your mind, you have Closed the debate about whether something is good or bad or okay or whatever. An open mind just means that you are willing to consider a different viewpoint. Surely, not everyone with an open mind thinks that EVERYTHING is okay. For example, I dont think polygamy is okay, but having an open mind about it at least allows me to consider and attempt to understand it as a real cultural phenomenom, and not just something that needs to be CLOSED out of our mind (notice the buzzword, CLOSED-mind). Think of it in terms of censorship, I disagree with censoring howard stern, even though I think his show is without any redeeming value to me, because censoring him would be CLOSING my mind to any understanding that an entire segment of the population has such concerns and interests. Closing my mind to that understanding by censorship would only hurt me. </p>
<p>Open mind philosophy: The enemy you do know is better than the enemy you don't know. </p>
<p>FYI: the catholic church has the largest collection of pornography on earth. they need to keep an open mind to understand what it is they're disagreeing with. </p>
<p>With that said, all the housing options at UofC seem great, ive never heard of a college with so many singles before! and a Luxury Hotel!? my god... I wonder how that commute is in the snow..</p>
<p>p.s. why on earth would anybody ever want to smoke or be around smokers? I'm suprised that it is permitted in so many of their dorms. Then again, maybe its friedman's laissez-faire at work, these students must believe that tobacco corporations are good and would never target them or hurt their customers... oh well, at least they'll look cool. </p>
<p>/smokers are at the mercy of greedy southerners. worse yet, they pay for it!.</p>
<p>Greedy Southerners and tobacco $? Don't diss Duke University! :)</p>
<p>Being closed minded isn't pretending something doesn't exist, or protecting yourself with shield of self-imposed ignorance. It means, as I said earlier, using knowledge to intelligently reject that which is unworthy while moving closer to what is worthy. I don't need to do a graduate study of MTV's The Real World to realize that its not worth my time, so I remove it from my life. </p>
<p>A true close-minded society, like Amsterdam, for example, would relegate worthless activities such as prostitution to bad, socially destitute areas of its cities, regulate and tax it, and brutally punish any prostitution that is outside the defined geographical limits. </p>
<p>The catholic church keeps pornography, but it doesn't believe that it is one of many equally worthy options or that it is something worth experiencing in and of itself. Close-mindedness doesn't ignore what it rejects, but brutally and like a monarch, places it in its proper place and treats it accordingly.</p>
<p>All praise is due to Allah.</p>
<p>You seem to confuse close-mindedness with ignorance. But it is open-mindedness that is a form of ignorance, for it supports everything recklessly without any real knowledge about it, as I have proved. My opponent brashly assumed that it was a physical law that sharing a room with a homosexual would increase one's knowledge and be a good thing in and of itself. Open-minded people prefer novelty over quality-- they study primitive cultures and pretend that that their increased "cultural knowledge" makes them a better person, or read poor books because the author has a certain skin color and instead of discussing its meaning use it as the basis for social commentary. I have much experience with these types in high school, and if i wanted to spend another four years with them I would have gone to Swathmore or similiar.</p>
<p>wow, after that last paragraph, Im going to to give up all hope for you. That is the height of hubris. I have never met ANYBODY who is "open minded" as you describe, apathetically accepting everything as "good", yet here you are, going on your way feeling better than anybody who is not like you. </p>
<p>How would you know which primitive cultures are useful to study, or which books are good, if you dismiss the act of reading them as a simple novelty. Gentlemen science in the 17 and 1800s was considered a novelty, but without it, our society would be without most of the scientific knowledge it has today, which has lead to the development of everything we do today in the digital world. My point is that, we never know if the understanding of something will be truly valuable to our own selves some day, but we might as well. </p>
<p>. I'll turn your attention to the "Aims of Education" speech which is around here on one of these posts... knowing about things like how homosexuals live, how people of other, untouched, faraway cultures live, how black people see the world, and so on, is valuable not because it is a means to an end of profit or betterment of our own society, but simply because it would enable you or I to live and see the world more fully. </p>
<p>However, personally, all of my friends are white and straight, not that im a biggot in any way, thats just how things work out, its always much easier to live with and get along with people who have similar interests. I do, however, have gay neighbors and see a lot of gay people every day (its inevitable in san francisco), and believe that there is a lot of intrinsic value just in my understanding that they are people and have lives. It seems to me that the majority of people in states with all these constitutional ammendments against gay marriage just really don't understand the lives of gay people. </p>
<p>If you came from that, and had to live with a gay person (just like, if you came from the south in the 1950s and lived with a black person) it would certainly open your eyes. there are people who go through that experience and change their opinion about gays, and people who don't. either way, the person is living more richly havign known.</p>
<p>anyways, lets stop this, and talk about housing.</p>
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What about the other further away house with singles, carpeting, and private bath? I think it is called Broadview or something like that...I picked that one as my first choice and mailed my letter out after spending 20 minutes deciding. Yea, I'm impulsive at times but so far it served me well.
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<p>Are you kidding me? Judging by your posts, you seems like a very out going and social person. Broadview is the single most depressing, anti-social dorm on campus! Singles with private bathrooms means nobody ever sees each other, and it is more than a mile away from campus! Have fun walking in the snow. I know two people who both left Broadview after their first quarter there for Max and Shoreland because it was making them depressed just being there.</p>
<p>shoreland is kind of far too, though. although the rooms were huge, which could be great for throwing those famous uc parties. hehe.</p>