<p>Is the Rose Hill campus safe?</p>
<p>Some previous threads...</p>
<p>getto? what's the area like?</p>
<p>neighborhood around the college?</p>
<p>And there are some others. I also visited the school, but basically it's urban yet safe. As long as you practice street smarts, like not walking alone at 3 am, you'll be fine. The RH campus itself is pretty closed off anyway. The students we spoke to said they've never really felt unsafe, and neither did we as we walked around for awhile. They had a lot of security, many blue lights littered across the campus, and the Ram Van, which can take you to and from campus. </p>
<p>And plus, just down the street is Little Italy, which had really great food.</p>
<p>Rose Hill is extremely safe. It has no more reported "incidents" than any other normal college campus and in some areas it is much safer compared to some very famous schools. You can look that up with official stats.</p>
<p>Kids use the RamVan to shuttle back and forth to Lincoln Center campus or go to Central Park. Otherwise they use the Metro North train, which stops at Fordham's gates on Fordham Road. It costs 4.00 to go to Grand Central Station and takes about 15 minutes with just a few stops along the way. It runs until 100am.</p>
<p>Its an awesome school and I hope you all get in.</p>
<p>This is so subjective, I think safety is a very personal issue and you are smart to get some input. The campus is safe/secure, the city - not so much.</p>
<p>Since we don't know how much you've travelled, it's difficult to draw comparrisons. I've been to Portland, and the Bronx will shock even the most street-wise Oregonian I'm afraid. If you're thinking Eugene-like campus setting, it's not even close.</p>
<p>That being said, if you go into college with an open mind, use some common sense, and celebrate the diversity you get in a big city you should be alright.</p>
<p>I went to school at USC in Los Angeles. For those that know this campus, Fordham is very similar. Great, safe campus ... but you venture too far off "the island" and you can really find yourself in an uncomfortable place.</p>
<p>The neighboring Bronx neighborhood around Fordham is perfectly safe during the day and kids go back and forth to Arthur Avenue area restaurants at night. I have done so myself. No, its not Eugene Oregon. But I have news for you, there are rapes and robberies in Eugene as well. A girl was kidnapped and murdered there a few years back right outside her apartment near campus. The bars across the street on Fordham Road where the party kids hang out are relatively safe and such....but never drink alone and wander around alone. That is the same at any school. Its no less safe than NYU or Columbia. If you wander two blocks east of Vanderbilt, you are in a nasty part of Nashville. Been there, done that. Duke is a nasty part of Durham, NC. Lots of "incidents" happen there, some of them making national news.</p>
<p>Fordham kids are tight and almost always go out in groups. My D routinely goes into the city and rides the train but she NEVER goes alone if she is out after dark. They have come home quite late, but have never had a problem if they have 2,3 or more of them in a group. She knows not to drink and that avoids 99% of the problems that occur. They routinely walk over to the Bronx Zoo or New York Botanical Gardens on free Wednesdays. And the area up the Moshulu Parkway (about 1 mile from Fordham, northwest of the main gate-Botanical Gardens) is a district called Riverdale, home to Manhattan College and a very nice part of the Bronx. Native New Yorkers know where to go and where to avoid and Fordham students are great about telling you the best path to this or that location. </p>
<p>I have been to Portland, Ore, Seattle and Tacoma Wash., LA, Oakland, Phoenix, Dallas, Chicago, St. Louis. Every city has its own "issues" and areas you need to avoid or be extra vigilant. But the Bronx is not as bad as people think it is and while its an eye-opener for suburbanites or upper middle class families who live in an idyllic neighborhood, it has its own quaintness and you learn to adjust to it. Then those Fordham graduates live and work in Manhattan, on Long Island, or Connecticut. </p>
<p>The campus is extremely safe.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot for the answers you guys. Street smarts shouldn't be too much of a problem since I grew up next to Washington DC and there were gangs at my old high school.
Do you think that I would feel unsafe because I wear nice clothing -cardigans, polos, slacks-?</p>
<p>No. There are plenty of "well dressed" kids at Fordham, depending on the activity, day of the week etc. But a lot of kids have nice clothes in their room closets but end up wearing the normal college gear: hoodies, sweatshirts and jeans...its just more comfortable. So bring both. You will have plenty of opportunities to dress up a bit. A lot of kids at Fordham come from upper middle class families. Of course there is a mix from socio-economic backgrounds. But you wont feel out of place. Fordham classes start mostly around 10, but there are a few which start at 830am. Fordham typically doesnt schedule classes on Wednesdays so you have a midweek break to sleep in, do laundry, get caught up on work, or do some advance work on your paper which is due. Or simply go shopping in the city. A lot of kids study late...as in after midnight, so it takes getting used to. </p>
<p>But if you go out for dinner on Arthur Ave-Little Italy, you may find kids in jeans and kids in prep clothes...and even some faculty may be there! Lots of kids dont bring their winter clothes until either after Thanksgiving or after Christmas. So you can judge from that. </p>
<p>Fordham is not an "attitude" school, so if people come from money, you dont see a lot of that swagger on campus. Are there some kids like that? Of course. Can't avoid them. But overall, its not a place like that. And that is another thing that makes it special. On accepted student orientation weekend (April) we did as much looking at the other accepted students and families as we did the campus. Why? Looking for the ubiquitous "fit" factor. "Are these people I want to hang with for four years in a close living situation?" And we all nodded "yes". </p>
<p>You are from Oregon (how does DC fit into that scenario?) and so don't worry about having to "prove yourself" socially. There are kids from the South, Southwest (Texas), California, Midwest and all over. Its a very typical college campus. (I dont know about the LC campus and their social scene, just the Rose Hill-Bronx campus). </p>
<p>Fordham is 60% Catholic and about 60% female students. </p>
<p>Hope that helps. Its a great place.</p>
<p>Alright, thanks a lot nocousin! My fears are quelled :)</p>
<p>""Is the Rose Hill campus safe?""</p>
<p>The campus itself is extremely safe and beautiful. Compared to other colleges I visted with my d last year, Fordham was the only one that was gated and had security guards at all entrances. I didn't like the fact that at most colleges anyone had access. At Fordham, you need to belong to have access!!</p>
<p>While no place is 100% safe, I'm on the campus often, was there today, and I always feel safe!</p>
<p>speaking of security, i recall a month ago a few recruiters came on campus for internships. the security didn't even ask for id and just let them in. the recruiter went on to call them "crack security" lol.</p>
<p>I am sure the "recruiters" werent entering campus at 1100pm, but more likely 1100am. That is a huge difference. No campus is perfect. But neither do you want to attend a police state or "military complex."</p>
<p>they entered campus around 6-7. the last recruiter who came late came in a bit after 8.</p>
<p>Hmmm...funny, when I was on campus the other day, I saw security stop two bike riders who obviously weren't students - turned out they were delivery men from a local restaurant.</p>
<p>I'm going to guess the recruiters were wearing business attire and looked like they belonged. Security generally knows what events are taking place on campus and doesn't generally ask for id, but will ask what your business is. Parents and potential students comes on campus every day and I've never heard of any being asked for id. Fordham Prep parents drive up to the Prep all the time without having to show id.</p>
<p>I have a hard time believing recruiters would come on campus and call Fordham's security "crack security" - if they did this, that was very unprofessional of them.</p>
<p>I have been to a lot of campuses and Fordham definitely has the best security at the entrances and has the only gated campus of any of the universities I visited, including Ivy's & CC top universities.</p>
<p>well i'm always asked for ID and I'm a full time student living on campus. security is supposed to sign in every person that walks into campus without a fordham ID. the only people who don't need an ID are those that are let unto campus by someone else who has an ID. that's at least how it's supposed to work. they definitely don't ask for id all the time tho. the reason the recruiter made that comment was because the guard was half asleep and just let him thru without questions asked. even if he was dressed professionally, which he was, he's still supposed to sign in. i know because in the past i've had to sign in some times because i've forgotten my ID on campus. but security is very arbitrary when it comes to checking IDs and signing people in.</p>
<p>and fordham university rightfully needs to be gated off. it's not the only college/university in the bronx that's gated off. take a look at Bronx Community College, Lehman College, Manhattan College, etc. all located in the Bronx, which are all gated off. i don't know where all these other top universities and colleges are located, but the reality is that they aren't in the bronx. and even though the bronx isn't as bad as its reputation from the 70s, there's a reason there's a bunch of cops walking around the streets. so the fact that fordham is gated is nothing special when you consider where it's located.</p>
<p>i'm not trying to rip on the security by the way. they do what they're supposed to do.but they aren't perfect by any means in how they act all the time. that's why the guy made that comment after the recruiting info session.</p>
<p>also don't insinuate i'm a liar. i have nothing to gain by making this up. i just wanted to share a story about what someone said in regards to the security.</p>
<p>How embarassing - I just realized that calling someone "crack" is a compliment meaning "Excelling in skill or achievement" assuming the recruiters weren't being sarcastic!</p>
<p>And bp - didn't mean to insuate you're lying - I was expressing, apparently rather poorly, an opinon that I would find it hard to believe that a recruiter would act so unprofessionally in front of students, not that you were making it up.</p>
<p>LOL....well....I didnt get in the middle of that discussion and I was going to suggest that you had perhaps misread it. Just the same, campus security is a combination of what you see, and also what you don't see (but is present). I was foot loose and fancy free in my college days and traveled far and wide...all over Europe and in some scary places...but I wouldnt dream of letting my own kids do that...especially not today!</p>
<p>Sadly we live in scary times. Though the Bronx has substantially improved over the last few decades.</p>
<p>BP- also it just occurred to me you are 100% correct about always being asked for an id- I see it all the time I enter campus. Students are asked for their university id's and anyone in that age group it seems, but for some reason adults are not. We just tell them what out business is.</p>
<p>Also, a couple of colleges that I was thinking of with open campuses where crime should be a concern, similar to Fordham's concerns, are Columbia & Georgetown. Columbia's not in the best neighborhood. Georgetown's neighborhood is nice, but anyone has access to that campus and that's when problems occur & they have.</p>
<p>sorry for the misunderstanding. he had said crack security in a sarcastic way. but i think it's more that he came thru the entrance that's close to fordham prep and so at that time mostly no one walks through. so that's probably why the recruiter got that impression (just like nocousin said, it's all a combination of what you see). i thought it was somewhat funny because i knew what he was referring to in regards to that entrance. but the guy was just joking around at that point with us since the session had essentially ended.</p>
<p>you sure columbia isn't gated off? i've been to some parts of its campus and i've seen it closed by gates/walls. either way, that's odd to hear from an ivy league, especially b/c the other schools i mentioned probably don't have all the resources and are still able to gate themselves off.</p>
<p>Actually, I just googled a photo of Columbia and there is an entrance gate and the campus appears to be "gated off" with a combination of buildings and at least that one gate. When we visited during the day obviously that front gate was open, but no one stopped us or questioned us, the guard didn't even look our way, so that surprised me. I would assume it is different late at night. I was just surprised I had free access at Columbia, while I am questioned as to what my business is at Fordham.</p>