Rose-hulman vs Harvey Mudd

<p>Among schools without doctorate, these two rank one and two in engineering.</p>

<p>Which is a better school for engineering, and which is a better school in general?</p>

<p>I know you can't really say one is completely better than the other, so I would like to see some categories that one school is better at</p>

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<p>Rose is all engineering and offers majors in sub-disciplines of engineering while Harvey Mudd College calls itself “The liberal arts college of engineering, mathematics and science” and only offers a general engineering major. The other big difference is that Rose is in Western Indianna (fly to Indy, rent a car and drive for 3-4 hours) while Mudd is in SoCal (Fly to ONT, call a cab, take a $10 ride). Terra Haute is more exciting than Claremont, though there is plenty for undergraduates to do within the Claremont Consortium.</p>

<p>Terre Haute is not “exciting” unless you really enjoy late-night scavenger hunts at Walmart.</p>

<p>and Claremont has no Walmart, no donut shops, and no drive throughs—students stay on campus and engage in underage drinking.</p>

<p>^ I haven’t been there, so I can’t comment on Claremont. It must be really bad if Terre Haute offers more interest.</p>

<p>There is a Walmart, several drive throughs and a few donut shops within 5 minutes of campus. However, we do indeed for the most part stay on campus, though for much more than underage drinking.</p>

<p>While Terra Haute might be more interesting than our tiny town of Claremont, you must be on something fierce if you think rural Indiana has more to offer than LA.</p>

<p>Rose is only 1 hour from the Indianapolis airport. Not far at all and you can usually find a ride from someone. A lot of students do go into Indy for a night.</p>

<p>Also, Indiana University is only 1 hour away…little 500 any one.</p>

<p>I can talk about Rose Hulman and they are very student focused. The professors love having people talk to them outside of class. The students at Rose are very “team focused” and will help each other in academics. </p>

<p>My D goes to Rose and I have told this story a couple times, For example, when she first started there, she tested out of Chem 1st year. Ahhh, we as parents knew this might be a bad move if she went into the second year right from the beginning. So she said she would try it for a week and see how it went. </p>

<p>After day 2 and shes decides to drop into the lower Chem class. She walked into the Professor’s office asking him to sign off to go down to Chem 1. </p>

<p>He talked to her for an hour and said…you know what if you come into my class 2 hours 2x per week, I will tutor you and he did. </p>

<p>Guess what she passed the class with flying colors and true to his word he did tutor her through the class.</p>

<p>This is not the first example: this is her second year and all students work with their professors. </p>

<p>And I have to say if the prof is not willing to take the time…out the door they will be. The school expects the profs to work with the students. Not only that… the profs love doing it. There is a lot of support there. Study groups and even a Soph dorm with 2 tutors per floor that are available at all times (Soph year is supposed to be the hardest).</p>

<p>My D is in a soriety and also president of a club…she could have never done this at another school. </p>

<p>Rose cares about the students and will ensure success. I have even spoke to the President of the school a couple times during Parents day, also my D has spoke to him. Its amazing to know a school so caring as this one.</p>

<p>Also, the career center is amazing my D had a internship her 1st year. Again, just a great place from a students point of view and a parents POV. </p>

<p>Hope that helps</p>

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<p>Thank you Cheezwhiz, your post helped a lot</p>

<p>And is Rose a strictly strong in engineering?
What about physics or mathematics?</p>

<p>^ [Rose-Hulman</a> Institute of Technology : Admissions](<a href=“404 | Rose-Hulman”>404 | Rose-Hulman)</p>

<p>Thanks noimagination great link…I’ll post the highlights.</p>

<p>Most people immediately think of engineering when asked about Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology. After all it is recognized as one of the best undergraduate engineering schools in the nation. What is perhaps less well known are the excellent Applied Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Computer Science, and Mathematics programs offered by Rose-Hulman.</p>

<p>Rose-Hulman vs. liberal arts colleges
The most telling difference between Rose-Hulman and liberal arts colleges in science and mathematics is the numbers of faculty and courses offered. Our departments require sixteen to nineteen courses for graduation and offer a total of forty to forty-five courses within the department. And these are “real” courses - no “Physics for Poets”, “Teaching of Chemistry”, “Computer Literacy”, or “Earth Algebra” here! What this means is a more thorough grounding in your chosen field, more course selection, broader knowledge base and larger numbers of professionals (not graduate students) from which to learn.</p>

<p>Compare this to liberal arts colleges:</p>

<p>generally require fewer courses in the subject area for a major
smaller number of courses to choose from
some courses are designed for “non-majors”
fewer number of faculty, narrowing the number of viewpoints to which you are exposed
Broad education as a base
Scientists need to be able to relate to the world around them. Liberal arts college proponents would argue that a broad education is necessary for scientists and mathematicians to fully understand the ramifications of their work. Therefore, included in graduation requirements are core courses in humanities an social sciences, usually numbering ten or eleven courses.</p>

<p>We agree!
That is why each Rose-Hulman graduate has taken a minimum of nine courses in humanities and social sciences, and many take even more through electives. You can choose from over 150 courses in such diverse areas as Sociology, History, Languages, Economics, Literature, Fine Arts, Philosophy and Political Science.</p>

<p>A strong academic atmosphere
Rose-Hulman attracts some of the best students in the country. The entire campus environment is based on science, mathematics and engineering education. Therefore, everything we do is designed to benefit students with these interests. We take our studies seriously and we know you will too. Your conversations will be with others who have a strong affinity for science and mathematics. You will be challenged to reach your highest potential by being immersed in an environment of peers. </p>

<p>As you can see there is much that our institution can offer you, even if you are not interested in engineering! We encourage you to explore your options and opportunities as a student here at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.</p>

<p>I used to think HMC is much better than RHIT. Now I don’t get that impression anymore. I lean towards the idea that for first tier schools, which both schools are, difference is little, especially if you’re talking about the education itself.</p>

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<p>As with the posts above-you have 2 prestigious schools for engineering. The difference being-that rose hulman concentrates soley on engineering courses which is fine if you don’t want anything but that. Harvey mudd is a western " small ivy" in the class of amherst that happens to offer engineering in addition to its liberal arts.</p>

<p>can someone explain why it’s a lot harder to get in at mudd than at rhit.</p>

<p>A simple answer on why it’s harder to get in to Mudd is straight line math … Mudd accepts less than 800 studs and has almost 3,000 applications. RHIT accepts ~1,800 studs and receives ~3,800 (2011 year numbers)</p>

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<p>My son is happy (after two weeks) at Mudd.</p>