Ross Chances

<p>So I got my act together this semester and got my grades up.</p>

<p>Submitted my application 2 weeks ago for Ross.</p>

<p>These are what my grades will be most likely, if nothing goes horribly wrong.</p>

<p>Stats 350: A
Econ 101: A
Math 116: A-
Musicology 122: A</p>

<p>So that will bring my overall GPA to around 3.6. </p>

<p>Extracurriculars: Marching Band, Campus Band, Michigan Economics Society, Relay for Life, UMS Intern, Eagle Scout</p>

<p>My essays were pretty good.</p>

<p>I think I'm looking pretty solid. Anyone have a second opinion?</p>

<p>those are basket weaving courses tho.</p>

<p>Stats 350 is the dumbed down, LSA version of IOE 265, with a much much inflated curve (I do not understand why it’s a 300 level class).
Econ 101 , A is expected.
Math 116 is the only “strong course” you have
Musicology = underwater basket weaving</p>

<p>Combining a 3.6 with an easy schedule means that you’ll be very borderline. I am pretty sure strength of schedule is considered because I went to one of the information sessions and I asked if engineering majors should drop all their classes to boost their GPA and they said they look at schedule strength and give engineering majors or hard science majors a lot more leeway in their GPA. Anyhow, good luck.</p>

<p>lol completely agree about Stats 350. What a joke. They cover about 60% of the material in IOE 265, with the majority of the class filled with less quantitative people (less competitive on the grading curve) compared to IOE 265, and a grading curve much more generous than IOE 265. So it’s like 10 times easier to get an A studying similar (but less) material in stats 350 compared to IOE 265, yet IOE 265 is a 200 level course and stats 350 is a 300 level.
It ****es me off seeing facebook statuses like “DIE STATS 350, DIE, why are you so hard!!”… WTH</p>

<p>Stats 350 actually has no curve.</p>

<p>exactly because everyone gets good grades. It is ridiculous. you realize the average grade is C+/B- for 265 depending on the prof, they alternate. If you have gary herrin he curves to a C+, the other guy is a lot nicer.</p>

<p>and all the exams for 350 that I have seen are jokes</p>

<p>I don’t think you really know what you’re talking about. The average on the last exam was a 73%, and that wasn’t brought up to a B- like many other classes do. You’re implying that everyone that takes the class just gets an A, and that’s definitely not true. </p>

<p>Sure, it’s extremely hard (I’m in Calc 2, so I know what hard math is), but I figured it would be a good quantitative addition to my course load this semester.</p>

<p>IOE 265
Graphical representation of data; axioms of probability; conditioning, Bayes Theorem; discrete distributions (geometric, binomial, Poisson); continuous distributions (Normal Exponential, Weibull), point and interval estimation, likelihood functions, test of hypotheses for means, variances, and proportions for one and two populations.</p>

<p>STATS 350
Frequency distributions; measures of location; mean, median, mode; measures of dispersion; variance; graphic presentation; elementary probability; populations and samples; sampling distributions; one sample univariate inference problems, and two sample problems; categorical data; regression and correlation; and analysis of variance. Use of computers in data analysis.</p>

<p>and tell me 350 is not the dumbed down version of 265.
and did you just classify calc 2 as hard math??? It is just a weeder class that is intended to get rid of the people who shouldnt be doing math or math related majors. HARD???</p>

<p>I’m not really sure what you’re trying to prove. Sure, there are several topics there that 350 doesn’t cover. </p>

<p>Engineering majors are so quick to jump on their high horse and compare their classes to others’ and prove that theirs are more difficult. I don’t understand it, and don’t really understand why you’re trying to convince me of this. I don’t really care. My original post was to see my chances of getting into the B school. </p>

<p>IOE, Industrial Operations Engineering, is a specific field, and probably the only people taking this class are people going into that field. It probably contains information that IOE majors will actually use in their jobs. Stats 350 is just a general requirement for dozens of majors and therefore that’s probably why it doesn’t go as in depth. Those who are actually majoring in Statistics will take more in depth courses later as this is simply an introductory course. </p>

<p>Again, I don’t really know what you’re trying to prove. It’s really just comparing apples to oranges. </p>

<p>I’m sorry for distracting you, though, you’ve probably been studying all night and need some sleep.</p>

<p>no we just dont understand how the hell a 300 class can be so much easier than a 200 level class, while they count for the same amount of grade points on our gpa. To top that off, you can tell potential employers oh “i took the challenge as freshman to take a 300 level class and got an A, and this is one example of me challenging myself”
There are a lot of LSA courses that we consider basketweaving, but it doesnt matter because that’s just how it is, but the there are “those courses” like stats 350 which are direct copies made easier, and branded with a higher course number, that really **** us off… but sorry for hijacking your thread</p>

<p>Again, what are you trying to prove to me? I get that the average engineer is more mathematically competent than a psych major. </p>

<p>Should I have taken IOE 265? Oh, I can’t. I’m not in engineering. What are you trying to say?</p>

<p>no no no we are not trying to prove something. It’s just our rant. A lot of IOE majors have massive hate for stats 350 and a couple other copycat dumbed down LSA classes branded with higher numbers, so it’s just a “side note” kinda thing, and that’s why I said, sorry for hijacking your thread" , it’s ireelevant</p>

<p>the engineering major elitism on this board is pretty annoying</p>

<p>but still, they have a point this time. your schedule is pretty weak. i’d say you’re definitely a borderline candidate.</p>

<p>You have a pretty decent shot. Business school is concerned with good grades in quantitative courses, and you showed that. I managed to get in with a 3.6 overall, and that was after getting a B+ in Math 116 and B in Econ 401.</p>

<p>P.S. Just ignore the engineering elitism on this board. They definitely think they’re too smart compared to the rest of the student body and quite full of themselves too. Actually, its not just on this board. On campus too many of my engineering friends joke about business majors, telling them that Ross classes are so easy and we do little work. They are clueless actually. Ross students work as hard if not harder than Engineering students, and while the classes may not be as hard as engineering classes content wise, it definitely takes a lot of work to get a decent GPA in Ross (and by decent I mean 3.5+ because most people will have a 3.7s and 3.8’s, whereas a 3.5 in engineering is considered more than decent).</p>

<p>those Eng bro no idea what is Murray Hill NYC
They are not belong to Wall street never…they are just one of those who believe quantitative skill get good job & Asian chicks . </p>

<p>they need to learn how to eat sushi first before talk buz.</p>

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<p>lol like the fact that you get a 4.4 for A+s in blow off classes in LSA to pad your gpa while we get 4.0 for A+s in the exact same class, or you get 3.4 for that B+ you try so hard to grind out for that hard class, and we somehow get a 3.3 for the same B+??
maybe that’s one of the contributing factors why “most people will have a 3.7s and 3.8’s”, ever thought of it that way? My gpa would be higher if I had the Ross GPA scale because I have 3 A+s from LSA classes and 1 B+ from my major class. </p>

<p>Also, the couple Ross classes that I have taken or the Ross classes that my EGL took are all curved to B+ and some to A-s, except for accounting classes? What the hell is that? Maybe you should consider that as one of your contributing factors to why “most people will have a 3.7s and 3.8’s”.</p>

<p>and then somehow some clueless employer would be like oh crap you got a 3.5 in engineering? that’s low and then look at the 3.7 from Ross and go…oh crap you got a 3.7 from ross, wow you are smart, such a high gpa</p>

<p>btw I do not deny the fact that Ross is a good business school. I was a preadmit back then myself. I am just saying, maybe the above reasons in the last post are some of the reasons why engineering majors make jokes about business majors. When you are taking classes with more difficult and time consuming contents, getting a harsher grading curve, and the same grade worth less than what it would be worth at another college, even in cases where you are taking the same courses. maybe you would be bitter too. As most engineering majors would say, there’s a reason why the duderstadt is open 24/7, and the central campus libraries dont.</p>

<p>I hope you get my point.</p>

<p>bearcats, does your life consist of talking on CC and studying? Honestly how many hours did you spend on spring break in the library or on CC? </p>

<p>The B-school students I know seem to be doing very well in school while also having a great time enjoying college. </p>

<p>I love how you talk about how hard engineering is when my friend is who is in COE got a 92 on his ME test, an 89 on his Civil engineering class and a 56 on his 300 level econ class. He studied about the same for each class.</p>

<p>no one want to do business lunch with bearcats.
who care your GPA & diploma once start work real world.
business people care your sense not math skill.
have you ever had business lunch at wall street during spring break?
no future if you do not have one. sorry boy</p>

<p>I love how the guy who can’t speak English is talking about how someone else wouldn’t be able to carry on a conversation with people working on wall street.</p>

<p>Back to the point: OP, it’s probably going to come down to your essays.</p>

<p>“business people care your sense not math skill.”</p>

<p>too bad this sentence makes no sense. Try again.
Pretty sure “business people” love to read pitch books you make with such exotic grammar style and sentence structures you use.</p>

<p>“bearcats, does your life consist of talking on CC and studying? Honestly how many hours did you spend on spring break in the library or on CC?”
No. but I go on CC whenever I am stuck while I program. </p>

<p>“I love how you talk about how hard engineering is when my friend is who is in COE got a 92 on his ME test, an 89 on his Civil engineering class and a 56 on his 300 level econ class. He studied about the same for each class.”
my friend also beat up chuck norris yesterday.</p>