<p>Here's the link for the Ross 2006 Employment Profile:
<a href="http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2006.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2006.pdf</a></p>
<p>If you're sure you want to go into Ibanking/finance then definitely choose ross. A business school education gears you more for the "real business world" while an econ degree is more theory. Ross's recruitment is great, and it pretty much garuntees placement into top firms. </p>
<p>I'm not saying that NU isn't a great school, but if you're thinking about the long-term and career-wise, ross is a better bet.</p>
<p>Also, its great that you're a PA so ross is garunteed. But I agree with dsmo that if you want a liberal arts education or are unsure about wanting to actually go into business, then go to NU.</p>
<p>In 2006, Booz, Bain, BCG took 1 Ross BBA each. I think McKinsey took about 4 or 5. For consulting, it doesn't seem that clear cut.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, roughly 10 students each year are placed into the top 5MC firms (Bain, BCG, Booz Allen, McKinsey and Mercer). That may not seem like much, but if you consider the fact that those firms generally only hire MBAs and that Ross is a relatively small BBA program, 10 is a pretty solid number. Even Wharton, which is roughly twice larger than Ross, places only between 20 and 30 students into those top 5 MC firms annually. MIT's Sloan, which is admitedly small (100 students/class) places between 0 and 5 students into those 5 MC firms annually. So Ross' 10 is pretty respectable.</p>
<p>I think its rather foolish to brush off UMich...whether it be Ross or LSA. If you have the motivation and the drive...the school has remarkable resources and professors. </p>
<p>What I do agree with is that the bottom 60% or so of LSA kids who look to get into the business world or find jobs after graduation might not be doing so great...and even at Ross, it is always difficult no matter where you go to break into banking.</p>
<p>With that said, I'm still stuck deciding between UChicago and UMich...and I don't know if I'm in at Ross yet (transfer student)....so I can see the OPs concern...and ultimately I think it would come down to factors that go beyond recruitment statistics and exit salaries....</p>
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Generally speaking, roughly 10 students each year are placed into the top 5MC firms (Bain, BCG, Booz Allen, McKinsey and Mercer). That may not seem like much, but if you consider the fact that those firms generally only hire MBAs and that Ross is a relatively small BBA program, 10 is a pretty solid number. Even Wharton, which is roughly twice larger than Ross, places only between 20 and 30 students into those top 5 MC firms annually. MIT's Sloan, which is admitedly small (100 students/class) places between 0 and 5 students into those 5 MC firms annually. So Ross' 10 is pretty respectable.
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<p>Then NU is pretty respectable too then because according to the link posted earlier, those 5 MC firms are all listed as companies in which 3 or more students accepted positions. I also think NU has a X factor that many people here forget. It has the Kellogg certificate that's gonna be very marketable (so far, you guys have seemd to be doing the comparison by assuming the OP is gonna just have econ only if he/she goes to NU). Anyway, the certificate program isn't just about the name; the 4 courses in that program are supposed to be more advanced than most finance courses in other undergrad business schools (that's why the highly math-oriented prerequisites). It's especially useful for those interested in doing IB. The OP may or may not get in but there's a chance.</p>
<p>Sam, NU has 8,000 students, Ross has 1,000 students. NU graduates close to 2,000 students annually, compared to 350 at Ross. I would except MCs to recruit a significantly larger number of students from NU than from Ross. And yes, NU is pretty darn respectable. I always defend NU on this forum, so you know where I stand when it comes to your alma matter.</p>
<p>Alexandre,</p>
<p>But at the same time, ~35% of those 8000 pursue further studies. Among the remaining 65%, not everyone is aspired to work for MC firms, let alone the top ones. Usually it's far from that. It's still gonna be more than 1000 of course, but it's not as huge as 8000 vs 1000.</p>
<p>The same can be said of Ross. 10% do not pursue work immediately, and only a select few of the 90% that join the workforce immediately wish to pursue a career in MC.</p>
<p>Its kind of weird that I am now posting in my own topic in defense of one of the schools, but over the last day I have read everything I could find and to tell you the truth it really didn't help too much. I ended up going with my gut and choosing Northwestern. I realize what I'm giving up by not going to Michigan but I think that NU was the right place for me. Anyways, just to throw this out there...in the graduating class of 2005 1074 kids in WCAS chose to pursue employment, of that 1074 27% or 290 of those kids chose to go into either Consulting or the Finance industry. About 20 of the firms at which more than three students accepted a job are in those two industries. That means that at least 60 (and likely many many more) of the 290 kids looking to get into those sectors of business were employed by just these top banks and consulting firms. I know not to mix graduate and undergraduate in Northwesterns case but if you look at Kelloggs job placements you would find that more than 50 students were offered jobs at McKinsey, this could mean nothing about the undergraduate placements but more than likely it indicates that NU is highly targeted for consulting. </p>
<p>Outside of all this is the financial Economics certificate program which Sam Lee mentioned. At an info session we were told that should we enter the program we would have access to certain aspects of Kelloggs Career services center which no other undegrads at the school can utilize. In addition the professor making the speech said that Kellogg well help find you and internship for the summer between the Junior and Senior year. I am convinced that this program will offer a tremendous amount to the student in terms of job placement.</p>
<p>"I ended up going with my gut and choosing Northwestern."</p>
<p>Always go with your gut. Great choice. You will do great at NU.</p>
<p>nyjeff06,</p>
<p>Don't forget another great program: MMSS</p>
<p>Here's the list of internships MMSS student get in the last few years: <a href="http://www.mmss.northwestern.edu/cur...0Directory.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.mmss.northwestern.edu/cur...0Directory.pdf</a></p>
<p>This has been a small program with 40 students (expanded to 60 this year) a year and usually half of them go to graduate schools. Considering this, this list is very respectable. The MMSS also automatically fulfills all the prereqs for Kellogg certificate.</p>
<p>You can apply to MMSS for sophomore entry.</p>
<p>Alexandre: thanks for the kind words, and I (as long with many other kids)appreciate your insight in every post across these forums!</p>
<p>Sam: wow I never knew MMSS fulfilled the pre reqs for the program...I have an application all filled out and have been told that they will still review it for freshman year, should I send it in. However I am scared that it will make it hard to have electives for the first two years, plus I am a guranteed transfer to Cornell and although it is looking less and less like I will exercise that option, I would still like to keep it available.</p>
<p>i applied as a transfer to northwestern econ from ross.. haha.
i guess that sums it up for me.</p>
<p>I hope you get into NU Forgiven. You really don't seem to like Michigan (accumulating over $100,000 in debt is probably one of the reasons why you aren't happy) and the college experience should be fun.</p>
<p>Hey jeff, I know mich/nu is a hard choice to make. I made it myself in the past few days. Don't feel like the odd man out though, I went with NU too, it just felt right.</p>