Ross School of Business - Your Experiences

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<p>I am a newb to this fourm. I was just looking over last few pages of the threads in the Michigan forum I was wondering why there is not much feedback from current Ross students about the business school. </p>

<p>For a highly ranking business school, there does not seem to be much activity from current students. You guys busy studying (since, after all, Ross does rack in the most numbers of hours of studying per week)?</p>

<p>Care to explain what you think of the program? How it is benefiting you? How much it has helped you? Academics? Life? </p>

<p>Thanks,
Penelope <3</p>

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<p>Ross does NOT rack in the most numbers of hours of studying per week. That honor/dishonor (whichever way you see it) belongs to engineering. Nice try though. There is a reason why the duderstadt is the only library on campus open 24/7 and it gets more crowded the later the night goes.</p>

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<p>This ranking changed. We were first.
[HITTING</a> THE BOOKS](<a href=“http://bwnt.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/undergrad_bschool_hardwork_2009/]HITTING”>http://bwnt.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/undergrad_bschool_hardwork_2009/)</p>

<p>Nice try though (Note how the title of the thread says Ross and not Michigan).</p>

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<p>You’re going to have to work hard in almost every single major if you want to do well</p>

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<p>Uh, that list only consists of undergrad business schools.</p>

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<p>i thought you at least learn how to quote statistics to make judgement in Ross. Do you notice that the list is from businessweek and it’s ranking business schools, “NICE TRY THOUGH”</p>

<p>Not to mention the fact that it is common knowledge that the workload in engineering is the highest in the entire university.</p>

<p>19.7 hours per week is a joke lol. that’s slightly more than 2 and a half hours per day. i’d gladly switch life with you.</p>

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<p>I am NOT comparing business with engineering (nowhere did I mention that).</p>

<p>Are you a noob? What is the title of the thread? I am not saying “universities of the world,” I am saying business school.</p>

<p>I bet can own your ass in engineering.</p>

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<p>“(since, after all, Ross does rack in the most numbers of hours of studying per week)”. you are not quite specific in your original statement. people could interpret you as saying ross students rack up the most studying hours in the university, which is not true. </p>

<p>Seeing that he landed a BB internship as in trading quant analytics as a sophomore which is something many ross kids would kill for, especially as sophmores, I bet he can own your sorry ass in business. what’s your point of saying that? What’s with this bragging in the internet lol…</p>

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<p>I am not saying anything. The point of this thread was to point out the fact that there is little discussion from current BBA students about the program itself. I just wanted to know why that is. If you look at the other forums, students are actively helping and chatting about their current experiences at their universities. </p>

<p>Why are you guys so quick to judge? Go out have fun. Get off these forum. Make something of your lives instead of getting angry.</p>

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<p>^Haha, it looks like you were the one getting defensive and angry. :smiley: lighten up!</p>

<p>In my experience, most Ross kids are really social, so they’re more likely to be out partying or making connections than on the internet in their spare time. This is true for all of the Ross kids that I know; none of them are internet geeks. I did begin this paragraph with the phrase, “In my experience,” so other people may have had different experiences.</p>

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<p>Wow, this is not what I expected when I opened the thread.</p>

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<p>BOO HOO! Stop pitying yourself that you have such a hard course load in engineering and spend a lot more time studying than business school kids (which is debatable). Who told you to major in engineering then? If you would gladly switch lives, you should have gone to Ross instead. After all, starting salaries for both engineers and business majors from Michigan is more or less the same. </p>

<p>penelope, I think he is H ;-)</p>

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<p>If I werent trying to get into quant finance and get a master of financial engineering degree right after undergrad I would totally have gone to ross, given that I was a preadmit. but obviously ross does not prepare you for that. Apparently going from Ross to MFE requires 1 and a half year of “leveling courses”, while going from engineering to MFE requires none if you take some elective from IOE.</p>

<p>What I mean is I would totally switch studying schedule with you. Not as in major.</p>

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<p>Ross is pretty cool, I’d say. It can get really competitive at times, but we have an inflated curve so we still get to go out and have a social life (e.g. B+ = 3.4). As long as you choose your courses well and stay on top of the material it’s not too bad. Everyone studies hard, but it’s not like we’re in the library 24/7.</p>

<p>Once you get into your Junior and Senior years, there is a ton of group work, which can be a good thing and a bad thing. Regardless, you will get very good at working in groups and managing your time well.</p>

<p>The new building is pretty sweet - although you may find yourself spending your entire day inside it because of the group meeting rooms and cafeteria.</p>

<p>As for career options, Ross has its own career center, and companies come to recruit directly out of Ross, so you get the hook-up when it comes to internships and full time offers. Personally, the Ross career center really helped me get my summer internship back in November, even while the economy tanked.</p>

<p>I guess the only downside would be that if you post that you go to (or want to go to) Ross on online forums like this one, the engineer kids get really angry and envious, and they try to brag about how they study more. I usually just ignore them. ;)</p>

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<p>envious? Why would I be envious being a preadmit, meaning I have the opportunity to do so but choose not to because I want to do go on and do MFE and have a career in quant finance instead of low level finance?</p>

<p>As I said, envious about the lifestyle, definitely, other than that, there’s no reason for me to be envious</p>

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<p>MFE FTW.
rtbenson, just to be fair, i think the “engineer kids” that you are talking about are just ****ed off about this ambiguous comment “since, after all, Ross does rack in the most numbers of hours of studying per week”, which when you interpret it as “Ross racks in the most numbers of hours of studying per week at University of Michigan”, is clearly not true. This thread has turned into this ugly bickering though, which really makes no sense</p>

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<p>and i think one reason Ross kids **** other schools off is that sometimes they act like they are the best school at U of M, which is definitely not true. Michigan Engineering is as prestigious an engineering school as Ross is as a business school. Michigan Law is as prestigious a law school as Ross is a business school. Michigan Architecture is as prestigious an architecture school as Ross is a business school. But a large proportion of Ross kids somehow act like they are superior. I am not saying all, but a lot of Ross kids have this cockiness aura around them.</p>

<p>In fact, even in finance, for the top trading type of firms, engineering is more recruited than Ross. Jane Street Capital and DRW, which arguably are the top prop market makers, recruit exclusively at the engineering school at the undergraduate level. DE Shaw and Citadel held their on campus interviews at the engineering school and took most of their interns from the engineering school.</p>

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<p>Everybody at Ross seems pretty humble and down-to-earth in my opinion. I’m not sure where you got your impressions.</p>

<p>(And not everyone at Ross wants to go into quant finance.)</p>

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<p>Hehe! You gotta love school spirit. Back in my day, rumor had it that Engineers had the heaviest and toughest course load, followed by Chemistry, Mathematics and Physics majors. That was back in the mid 90s though. The main difference between the sciences and the other subjects is that in the sciences, you have no choice but to take a bunch of really tough classes. In the humanities and social sciences, students always have the option of waterring down their schedule with easy courses. </p>

<p>As far as Ross goes, I think the point that should be made is that in terms of pressure and intensity, it is arguably the hardest program at Michigan. Many Ross students are aiming for jobs that require a minimum GPA of 3.5 and the faculty is known for its harsh curves. The material covered at Ross is not going to be as tough as the material covered in Engineering, but the intensity is just as high and the pressure for grades is through the roof. </p>

<p>As far as Michigan’s strongest departments go, I am affraid that honor goes to many departments. Michigan’s schools of Business and Engineering are obviously tops, but do not underestimate Michigan’s Social Science and Humanities departments. Michigan’s Anthropology, Classics, Economics, English, History, Philosophny, Political Science, Psychology and Sociology departments shine very bright. 7 of those 9 departments are ranked between #1 and #7 in the nation! </p>

<p>The other two are ranked between #8 and #13 in the nation. And Michigan is no weakling in the sciences either. Our Mathematics and Geology departments are always ranked between #5 and #10 in the nation and Biology, Chemistry, Computer Science and Physics are generally ranked between #11 and #15 in the nation. </p>

<p>Finally, Michigan’s Architecture, Music and Nursing programs are also ranked in the top 10 nationally. </p>

<p>In short, every single program at Michigan kicks major derriere! Only Cal, Stanford and Harvard are consistantly better than Michigan. We even give the likes of Columbia, Penn and Yale a run for their money!</p>

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<p>“Many Ross students are aiming for jobs that require a minimum GPA of 3.5 and the faculty is known for its harsh curves”
I do not agree with the harsh curves thing. For the Ross class I have taken so far, they are all curved to a B+/A- except for ACC 201. I agree that many Ross students aim for jobs that require a minimum of 3.5 while most engineering students except for those aiming for google, microsoft and finance are aiming for jobs that require a minimum of 3.0. But if you are an engineering student aiming for a job that requires a 3.5 to get an interview, and believe me, a small portion of engineers want to get into trading or consulting (less so banking), you are up shyt creek and you can expect to put in much longer hours than almost anyone.</p>

<p>Also, harvard does not consistently beat us, not in engineering :-)… HBS, on the other hand…dam it</p>