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<p>I would suggest ignoring CSmajor5’s third point, but the other 3 are valid AND useful. I am in class or I would look it up.</p>
<p>3) What is it about Rutgers that sets apart from other engineer school? For former/current students, did you have excellent opportunity for research and educational outcome? Any great Rutger professors who holds NAE (National Academy of Engineer) whom you can ask for LOR for top grad school admission?</p>
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<p>That was just direct comparison between Berkeley and Rutgers. Not other schools. </p>
<p>Ok, everyone knows Berkeley is better in every major than Rutgers and chance to get a better job increase with #1 public school in the nation. He’s ONLY concern is “Do I get my bang for the money for my investment on Berkeley degree.” Now I can’t guarantee he will have better life by going to Berkeley since it’s all up to his performance/dedication in the school but you have to agree… he will have more opportunity by going to Berkeley.</p>
<p>I don’t know anything about Rutgers and I never heard of this school until I saw the topic. So pretty much I don’t know jack about Rutgers. Was I wrong to start bad mouthing on school I do not know much about? maybe. But when I never heard of Rutgers for engineer school… can it really compare to the world known university like Berkeley? </p>
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<p>I just checked. it’s ranked 53 not tier1.</p>
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<p>These are many, Rose Hulman, Olin, Harvey Mudd to name a few. Most of the large older schools are primarily research institutions, thus under grad education is not their first priority. I suggest you look for schools that do not use TA’s, do not have large lecture classes and have a curriculum that includes real engineering courses starting in freshmen year. In many traditional engineering schools your core engineering class don’t start till your third year.</p>
<p>[Rutgers</a>, the State University of New Jersey–New Brunswick - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/piscataway-nj/rutgers-6964]Rutgers”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/piscataway-nj/rutgers-6964)</p>
<p>It is a tier 1 university. In 2008 it was ranked 48th among engineering schools. Tier 1 is different than top 10 csmajor. Get it right. </p>
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<p>This was an answer on another site discussing Rutger’s engineering.</p>
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Thank you. It seems unlikely that the “top” 20 colleges would meet the above description because they probably would not be “top” 20 without an emphasis on grad research.</p>
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<p>Rutgers was tier1 school but NOT ANYMORE. top50 university is tier1 and Rutgers placed 66th in USNWR for national university category for this year 2010.</p>
<p>If the Rutgers engineer program is so great, there’s no need for that type of discussion to ensure students/parents’ concern regarding job placement and admission grad school. That alone shows lack of confidence in its program in my opinion.</p>
<p>CSMajor5, where did you get your undergrad degree?</p>
<p>Gatech CompE. Currently pursuing master in computer science</p>
<p>Like you even said, we all know that Berkeley’s engineering is better and more well-known than Rutgers’. If he has the money to go to Berkeley than he probably should, but like someone else said earlier, if money were not a problem he would not have come on here posting about the money. $90000+ debt is not worth going to Berkeley for, and there’s no doubt that Berkeley’s OOS is going to go up significantly during the next few years.</p>
<p>And you commented on Rutgers’ USNWR ranking, why does that even matter? There isn’t a big difference between #50 and #66, especially considering they WERE in the top 50 before. Who’s to say they won’t even break into that range again while he’s there at Rutgers’ (even though I don’t believe the ranking difference matters that much)?</p>
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<p>And who are you to decide where the tiers are broken up? In fact, the concept of tiers is kind of goofy to begin with. By most conventional measures, Rutgers is not a tier 1 university in engineering. However, these tiers are entirely arbitrary and subject to individual opinions and perceptions. The only place where tiers are really written down is in USNWR and even that is arbitrarily set as a number. Two schools with marginal difference in quality can easily fall in different tiers. In fact, it is highly likely that such a situation happens since, when you get that far from the top, the lines blur between each school. There are tons of schools with roughly the same quality just outside the top 20 or so range.</p>
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<p>Don’t get too hung up on the TA thing. You will never, or almost never see a TA teaching a class anywhere. Usually, TA’s just run the side discussion sections, but a full professor does the lectures. Both have office hours. In my entire time in undergrad at a large school, I had 2 classes fully taught by a TA: a 100-level Psych class and a 100-level Geography class. I also had one engineering class taught by a post-doc, which is light years better than a TA and basically just as qualified as a professor.</p>
<p>Thanks boneh3ad! That should help my search.</p>
<p>I guess that I should add that my undergrad school had roughly 30,000 undergrads and 9,000 or so grad students, so while it isn’t the absolutely largest school in the country, it is still quite large, and yet that was my experience.</p>
<p>My opinion is go to Rutgers. However, I have to wonder about the application logic. I assume both of these are OOS? I don’t know why the OP didn’t apply to more schools in-between these and with better financial conditions. But that’s water under the bridge unless the OP would go to a community college for a year or take a gap year and apply to a different configuration of colleges or try and improve his scholarship/financial funding situation.</p>
<p>Obviously, USNWR thinks they are tier 1 or they would not have put tier 1 under their ranking. You don’t choose the way things are, they do.</p>
<p>Wow, so I actually go to Rutgers. (I’m a freshman, though, so I don’t have as much experience.)</p>
<p>The SWE/MEET Career Fair had Lockheed Martin, Merck, Parsons Brinckerhoff, Stryker Orthopedics, Telephonics, Gannett Fleming, PPL Corporation, and PSEG.
I know Accenture, Abbott Labs, and the CIA hire from Rutgers a lot.</p>
<p>The high-profile companies that will visit Berkeley are also going to go based on location. Obviously, they’re not going to travel across the country to try and find interns/employees. Johnson & Johnson has headquarters right on the Rutgers New Brunswick campus, and I know someone who got a Coca-Cola job offer recently.</p>
<p>I am not going to try and tell you Rutgers is on par or better than Berkeley, no. But I will say that Rutgers is a respectable school, and it should definitely be considered, especially considering the cost discrepancy.</p>
<p>Go to Rutgers undergrad, do well, and then get your MS at UC Berkeley.</p>
<p>Hell…that’s exactly what I did.</p>
<p>I checked Rutgers site…couldn’t find any pertinent information, stupid marketing dept…so I had to use my research skills 
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<p>something I like to do is google the ‘<school name=“”>’ , ‘engineering’ , and ‘resume’. I then can find resumes from undergrads in engineering from rutgers, </school></p>
<p>The first one I found ended up at Princeton for Ph.D
[Shalinee</a> Kishore - Resume](<a href=“http://www.cse.lehigh.edu/~skishore/resume.htm]Shalinee”>http://www.cse.lehigh.edu/~skishore/resume.htm)</p>
<p>the second one I found, also ended up at princeton (strange)
[Jeffrey</a> Dwoskin - Resume](<a href=“http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9V7MuMZUuKkJ:www.jeffdwoskin.com/resume.doc+engineering+rutgers+,+resume&cd=21&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us]Jeffrey”>http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9V7MuMZUuKkJ:www.jeffdwoskin.com/resume.doc+engineering+rutgers+,+resume&cd=21&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)</p>
<p>the third I found sucked (hoped around in diff engineering jobs and left for teaching ??)</p>
<p>The fourth I found ended at Cornell for Phd
<a href=“http://www.engr.uconn.edu/cee/pdf/Vadas_CV_11-20-09.pdf[/url]”>http://www.engr.uconn.edu/cee/pdf/Vadas_CV_11-20-09.pdf</a></p>
<p>The fith went into industry, looong list of consulting, did very well
<a href=“http://www.sommatechconsulting.com/pdfs/Miraglia%20Paul.pdf[/url]”>http://www.sommatechconsulting.com/pdfs/Miraglia%20Paul.pdf</a></p>
<p>Summary, 3 off to ivy’s, 1 sucked and the other did really well in industry…I stopped looking there. oh and add sanzen as the sixth one who went to berkely : )</p>
<p>Note: I’m not suprised with the results Rutgers is a fine university</p>