<p>I was wondering what anyone knows about rush and the personalities of different frats and sororities. Im certain that I'll rush and pledge somewhere(you'd be dumb to go to uva if you were one of these people who hates the greek system), but I dont quite know what to expect. Thanks.</p>
<p>You shouldn't make any decisions based on stereotypes. A stereotype is just an oversimplified and sometimes totally untrue approximation of a frat or srat's true personality. Wait until your first semester and you will get to know which frats throw the parties you, personally, enjoy the most. Sorority rush is very intense and you will go to every house and meet all the sisters and get to know them for yourself. I don't know if you're a boy or a girl, but either way, be patient and soon you'll know for yourself which house is right for you.</p>
<p>haha wait till tenniscraze catches wind of this post....</p>
<p>He cracks me up. He loathes fraternities and anyone who even considers them
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=276397%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=276397</a></p>
<p>But I have pretty much the same thoughts as the origanal poster and am interested to hear opinions</p>
<p>Oh and you should check out the 2011 forum above that has a short discussion on the greek life at UVA</p>
<p>yeah im a guy if that helps...im not wonedering about stereotypes but i know certain frats attract different type kids (kids from my highschool usually go sae, hall, or dke at uva but i dont know anything about these or any different ones)</p>
<p>I'm also curious on how everyone views the Greek system at UVA. I know the whole "there's a niche for everyone" idea, but has anyone ever felt left out or cut off due to involvement or lack of involvement in Greek Life? Also, does anyone know if it is even possible to participate in greek life if you transfer in as a sophmore like I might. I currently go to a school with no greek life and I might be interested in one of UVA'S frats? Does anyone know anything about Zeta Beta Tau?</p>
<p>i like a lot of the guys in zbt. they do have <em>the</em> crappiest house though.</p>
<p>haha, I saw the heading and immediately thought of the canadian rock band.
Neil Pert is my hero
Sorry, nothing truly helpful to contribute.</p>
<p>2011wahoo,</p>
<p>Here you go:</p>
<p>I went into detail about some of the stereotypes of several of the houses in this other UVA Fraternities thread. Being that I was at Virginia 10 years ago, some of these stereotypes might be outdated, but it gives you at least a snapshot of the scene.</p>
<p>i read the link above and would agree that it is a little outdated:
sae, kappa sig, ka, and dke are probably the quintessential southern frats nowadays...zete, elmo, the hall, and a few others are equally popular and selective but not as easily pigeonholed...srats have changed a ton but thats a whole other story...hope this helps</p>
<p>I've heard some horror stories about the pledge process at other universities. What's it like at UVa? Does anyone have specific examples?</p>
<p>some are worse than others. needless to say, you will be hazed.</p>
<p>there are generally 3 types of hazing - mental, physical, or with alcohol.</p>
<p>1st one is easiest, 2nd one is hardest imo, and 3rd one is annoying - but once again easy. i would say hazing with booze is becoming less routine as the risks have been going up. all pledge processes involve cleaning - you will constantly be cleaning the house and brothers will mess it up on purpose. most if not all frats have gone to a 1 semester pledge process. i was the last year of 2 semester pledging at my house.</p>
<p>i would venture to say that you should get used to doing pushups in the thousands, "bows and toes," and listening to people's crap - you will hear a lot of it during the pledge process.</p>
<p>Haha, in the thousands?! I run and do weights, but I don't think I've done a pushup in a year. I doubt I would make it past a hundred. But if that's bad, I guess there is no hope for those on the heavier side in pledge.</p>
<p>Hmm, I just can't imagine the prospect of a beer gut upperclassman shouting at me to 'drop and give fifty' when he couldn't muster past single digits himself.</p>
<p>you dont have to adore frats to go to uva...thats just a blatantly naive belief....i dont plan to join a frat nor am i too fond of them yet i love and am very active at uva....so various types of students call uva home...plus, i dont agree with the statement that frats/sororities dominate the social scene...i mean thats true if u r idea of a good time is crappy rap music, people who cant dance and dress really preppy for a party, and ****ty beer with crowded lines for it too...then yes...but i hate frat parties and instead go to house and international parties and to bars with friends downtown and thats my type of fun and we have a great time..so from my perspective the social scene is definitely not "dominated" by any one entity by any means.....</p>
<p>Yeah, no one really goes to frat parties after their first year</p>
<p>greek life is certainly the main facet of social life at uva...people go to frat parties all fours years...there are also mixers, formals, semiformals, and going to bars that people dont consider all of which still revolve around ones frat or srat...saying otherwise is truly naive...thats not to say you have to be involved but with the plethora of different houses i can hardly see why you wouldnt</p>
<p>Yeah, most people still go to frat parties on occasion for the fun of it or because you know people there, but after first year many students find better ways to party. You might go to a frat parties all four years if you're actually in a frat or have no other way to party but to carry around your student ID for cheap beer.</p>
<p>I think it really depends on your social circle. Every year, I did go to an occasional fraternity party, which I enjoyed, but most of my friends weren't in frats/sororities. They were the Echols people I lived with first year as well as everyone I became close to when I moved to La Casa Hispanica (now called La Casa Bolivar) and Brown College. Plus, all the organizations I got involved in became my "fraternities" of sorts.</p>
<p>I find nothing wrong with fraternities. Yes, they sometimes get a bad rap, but they also do tons of community service too. If you think you would be interested in frat life, rush. See if it's for you. If not, don't worry. 70% of UVA students are not in frats/sororities.</p>
<p>it closer to 55-65% of students...the 70/30 percent break down is skewed because it is taken during the first semester when first years have no possible way of being officially affiliated with a fraternity or sorority (that does not mean their social basis does not revolve around the greek system)</p>
<p>Are you sure about that? The 70/30 breakdown has remained pretty much the same even when I was at UVA 10 years ago, and back then you could join a fraternity your first semester, because rush started pretty much right after school began. </p>
<p>For the entire frat/sorority population of UVA to suddenly go from 30% of the student body (supposedly not including any 1st years) to 45%, that would mean around 2,000 first years would have to pledge. That's around 60% of the entire 1st year class, and I know that doesn't sound right.</p>
<p>its definately not close to 55-60%.</p>
<p>just using some common sense - say the average fraternity class is 15 students - and there are about 30 fraternities 15 x 30 is 450</p>
<p>Say the average sorority class is 30 and there are about 15 sororities - same deal, 450</p>
<p>900 x 4 = 3600. 3600/13000 = 28%</p>
<p>i'm sure exact numbers will get you to that 30% mark.</p>