<p>Didn't you see what they said zules?</p>
<p>"Well I have heard students borrowing money from others and then returning it after taking their bank statement "</p>
<p>"That's just plain stupid. Why would colleges give you (need-based at least) any financial aid if the FS is required solely to prove that you have enough money to cover for 4+ years of college in a foreign country with extra expenses?"</p>
<p>You need financial statement for college that offer only merit based aid for internationals...there are a few that can waive tuition for qualified candidates...but they still want proof that you have money to study...</p>
<p>^ You got it right</p>
<p>But I really dont understand it. Why the hell would a rich student need merit scholarships? Its people like us who need them.</p>
<p>Are you people aware that the financial statement that you send does not require you to show full funding? Why would universities give you money if you already had some? You're just supposed to tell them how much you can afford to pay.</p>
<p>Basically, the rich can just pay $50000 a year (which is like double the income of my family, by the way). The rest of us, are #&%!ed.</p>
<p>Doing your undergrad in the US is way useless. Period. Now, when it comes to graduate studies, the US schools' domination is unquestionable and those $50,000 may be a good investment in some cases... that's just my opinion though but I like to think that I'm doing the right thing staying in Europe where college is free (and I can still totally go back to the US as an exchange student--Tufts, NYU or Middlebury) and then paying those $50,000 (or even $100,000 for a good two-year program in my field) for graduate school.</p>
<p>Not everyone can go to US. But I disagree on the point that its useless to go to US for undergrads. It does make sense to goto US. You wont earn the same after you <em>free</em> university. And yeah does your <em>free</em> university provide you research facilities, brilliant faculty and the intellectual atmosphere?</p>
<p>My "free" university is the Sorbonne, I'll probably earn quite a lot after I graduate and yes, my university does provide me with extensive research facilities, brilliant faculty--many of whom are Ivy or Oxbridge grads and, however, I must say, a limited intellectual atmosphere. But hey, at least my university taught me how to speak (and write!) a close-to-flawless English... so there.</p>
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<p>:D :p</p>
<p>I was referring to the student body... I don't see anything funny or worth mocking about that. It's kind of sad in a way...</p>
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brilliant faculty--many of whom are Ivy or Oxbridge grads
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<p>You were referring to Faculty, mate. :)</p>
<p>about them being ivy grads, yeah. What's so funny about that?</p>
<p>EDIT: Oh gotcha I got your point. I know, it sounds paradoxal but it actually makes total sense... the limited intellectual atmosphere is caused by students who MUST be accepted, by law, but often drop out their freshman year (up to 50% of my class!) because the curriculum is too intensive for them. And most of the other half of the student body is composed of hardcore test-takers who do nothing but study to be finance students and make big money. They may be successful later on in life but it's not what I would refer to as a sane environment.</p>
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Doing your undergrad in the US is way useless. Period. Now, when it comes to graduate studies, the US schools' domination is unquestionable and those $50,000 may be a good investment in some cases... that's just my opinion though but I like to think that I'm doing the right thing staying in Europe where college is free (and I can still totally go back to the US as an exchange student--Tufts, NYU or Middlebury) and then paying those $50,000 (or even $100,000 for a good two-year program in my field) for graduate school.
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<p>As a Ph.D student in the US, you'll probably pay nothing as your research assistanship will cover tuition and fees in addition to providing you with a modest monthly stipend. As a master's student, especially an M.B.A student, you'll probably have to pay full tuition.</p>
<p>I know. But I'm only interested in completing a masters. Ph.Ds aren't very welcome on the French job market and I don't want to stay in school that long.</p>
<p>Lets get back to the topic?
any more suggestions for safeties for internationals that give full scholarships etc</p>
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safeties for internationals that give full scholarships etc
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There are none...that I know of...</p>
<p>^ I wouldn't say that. But yes all students cannot have safeties that would cover full costs.</p>
<p>many considers bu as a good safety....easy to get into but also has some name recognition....</p>
<p>BU? It's a safety for those who can pay</p>
<p>^ True. But I guess that will change. They have modified their FA policies.</p>