<p>Hi I'm a rising senior. I really like Brown and MIT, but obviously, can't depend on getting into one of those. I really like the liberal atmosphere at Brown, but also love the "nerd" factor associated with MIT (sci jokes, the hacks, etc.). I was wondering if anyone knew of any lower rank colleges (safeties) that resemble either (or both) of these two? thanks.</p>
<p>Oh btw I'm interested in engineering, but am not quite sure yet...definitely majoring in something science related. I like the engineering program at Brown because it makes the student so well rounded in all the engineering disciplines.</p>
<p>Did you look at Harvey Mudd? Rochester might be good too.</p>
<p>What states are you interested in going to? I'd look at some public universities.</p>
<p>In that case try UC Berkeley. It's good for engineering.</p>
<p>I know Harvey Mudd has a much higher admissions rate, but isn't the pool incredibly self selective? Also UC Berkeley is really hard to get in for out of state students (I live in the mid atlantic)</p>
<p>oh yeah id also like to go somewhere in the northeast or midatlantic, if possible. I like colder weather.
(don't get me wrong though if by some miracle I got accepted by caltech or stanford I'd definitely go there hahaha)</p>
<p>Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. One of the best engineering programs in the nation; top ten I believe.</p>
<p>UCB is the farthest possible thing away from a safety for someone OOS. Harvey Mudd is also very hard to get into. It's pretty much a reach for everyone.</p>
<p>If you really truly love Brown, love the culture, the giant mix of liberal arts and engineering, the intellectual curiosity (read: nerdiness, in a good way), but want something you're pretty safe getting into compared to MIT and Brown, I recommened:</p>
<p>Oberlin College
Oberlin</a> College Online
And here's a link to their engineering program info:
Program:</a> Engineering - Oberlin College - acalog ACMS™</p>
<p>I've got a good friend going there; she absolutely loves it.</p>
<p>I don't think that I would call Oberlin a safety school. My child was accepted at the U of Chicago and Johns Hopkins, but rejected at Oberlin. I second the suggestion of the U of Rochester. It is a great school and has many of the things that you are looking for, but is easier to get into than Brown or MIT.</p>
<p>First of all, post your actual stats so we can think of what a 'safety' for you would be.</p>
<p>However, if you like BOTH pranks and well-rounded engineering educations, then consider visiting/looking. Harvey Mudd as mentioned. Hacks are a part of our culture on a routine basis, with the rule being all of them must be reversible. Also, we ONLY offer a degree in general engineering, and beat the crap out of you with everything.</p>
<p>If you'd consider going out of the states... I'm going to say University of Toronto. Definitely take a look at their Engineering Science program (esp. if you want to go to grad school/professional school afterwards, they send a fair amount out to MIT/Caltech/other highly ranked research universities). The Engineering culture is quite predominant there, they have a "secret" pranking society and a sense of quirky nerdiness?</p>
<p>Eng Sci program itself provides a really well-rounded education, you spend your first two years taking courses in all engineering disciplines offered, and then you choose a specialization (all of the regular ones, and some such as bio-med, nano, energy, which aren't usually offered till a grad school level). Basically it's a sort of honours program that provides access to the best profs/research opportunity/etc. </p>
<p>Hahah... that's the end of my plug.
Here's a link:
Division</a> of Engineering Science, University of Toronto - Home</p>
<p>Here are some schools (not neccessarily safeties... some not close at all, but you might be interested in them anyway) that you might want to look at:</p>
<p>Wesleyan (i'm not sure if they have engineering, but they definately have strong sciences...)
Harvey Mudd
UMichigan
Cornell
Olin
Carnegie Mellon</p>