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The SAT is one of the worst benchmarks in the entire college application process. 80% of it is determined by luck.
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<p>Only because innate intelligence is determined by luck.</p>
<p>True innate intelligence is not even tested by the SAT. True innate intelligence is evaluated by real-life applications of arts/sciences, not little math problems that wont do anything for you in the future.</p>
<p>I'd like to see an all free response SAT. I think the results would be at least a bit more accurate.</p>
<p>(And by free response, I don't mean the "fill in the number" crap. I mean show your work.)</p>
<p>Ah, then you should love A Level Mathematics exam!</p>
<p>As I said, those who think get good grade SAT could guarantee them a long term doctoral careers, that is a mistake.</p>
<p>People who are both studious and intelligient with high GPA and broad knowledge (research adept apart from school material) are those who could be relied for the future generation. We don't need both parrots and nitpickers. SAT good test takers may be both good in GPA and Test who know? But I think who get really poor in SAT doesn't mean they are NOT INTELLIGENT!!</p>
<p>One of my friend have 410 M, 460 CR, 450 W yet he studies AP Chem, AP Physics, Differential Equations, History Seminar, AP English Literature and even study himself A Level Philosophy. Even my SAT grade is remarkably greater than him, I would humbly retreat and admire him.</p>
<p>I don't think any written TEST can determine innate intelligence. Maybe a machine where they analyze brain waves given stimuli, but nothing multiple choice. </p>
<p>Cuong, I think as one gets into higher learning, he or she becomes overanalytical...</p>
<p>I don't know. Do extremely brilliant students (I really mean the creme de la creme) actually have a hard time with the SAT? I know two kids who I think qualify as 'genius' level, and they got something like 2380 and 2400 on SAT. So no overanalyzing there... I guess it might depend on the genius and how much standardized testing still matters to him/her. But I don't think any true genius should be incapable of scoring near perfect on the SAT if he does really want to unless 1) english isn't his native language 2) his 'genius' is lopsided ...</p>
<p>The fact is not Genius or not, but how the mind of Genius works.
As I said, that guy did very poor in SAT, and he does not care for it even though he spends 2 months study for it. The only reason that I think the guy do extremely good in AP (freshman already he took AP European History) is that he has some sort of equanimity and a solid background of A Level Physics and Chemistry. (Well, he is so nice and adorable, help me out with my college essay too).</p>
<p>So, it is hard to tell a genius can do good on SAT. As I said, I am not good in SAT, but my grade at least is much more higher than him (even Math), yet I still admire and feel no comparison could be made between him and me. It is like you are standing in front of a tall tree and suddenly you feel scary because you're so short.</p>
<p>charismatic language, broad knowledge, deep contemplation and constant equanimity are indeed what I try to learn from the guy. He has never stopped learning even though he bits all native students with his massive curriculum. Right now, he even does not care to write application for college and spends a lot of time on reading Philosophy, which I have no idea what the hell is he thinking (I am so anxious)...</p>
<p>He says that he just waits until he finish the A Level Philsophy so that he can apply to Oxford. (God damn it!!)</p>