<p>For NYU, it says that the SAT 2's are highly recommended and they will be requiring it as of next year. However, it also says that they will not be required for people applying to Tisch. But is it still suggested? Would they take a person who took the SAT subject tests over someone who didn't? I am currently signed up to take the tests in Mathematics 1 and Spanish with Listening, but with all the other pressures of college applications and being a senior in high school it would be alot easier to just ditch it. Any NYU Tisch students out there that can tell me if they did the SAT 2's or not? and anyone who can tell me what the Math and Spanish subject tests are like?</p>
<p>Where did you see that SAT 2s will be required for next year? What "subjects" will be required? My S is considering NYU Steinhardt, but adding subject tests for a music degree seems a bit of a stretch given everything else he will have to do for auditions, etc., at various schools. Let me know where you read this. Thanks.</p>
<p>I spoke to an NYU rep. He said that yes, they are requiring SAT2s for all incoming freshman for 2007. I think you really can take mostly any of them. The english one is being phazed out though, the writing section of the SAT is taking its spot.</p>
<p>So. They're NOT required (which I'm sure is a relief for alot of people). But what I want to know is, at an extremely competitive school like NYU, would SAT 2s give me the leg up over the the other kids auditioning? Or would it just be too much stress to bother with?</p>
<p>Every student I have who has been accepted to Tisch/Steinhart has taken SAT 2s.</p>
<p>It is true, the essay on the SAT and ACT has largely taken the place of the English/Literature SAT 2.</p>
<p>I think my experience has been that those students who take the SAT 2 tend to be better academics and have higher GPAs and test score to begin with and have a better chance to get into NYU anyway.</p>
<p>I can't imagine that not taking the SAT 2s would keep a good actor from getting accepted.</p>
<p>I agree-everyone I know who got in, took SATIIs. NYU does have a reputation of looking at the academics of an applicant so anything you can do to enhance yourself-academically would be a benefit. This includes AP courses, SAT IIs etc.</p>
<p>hmm. well I had gotten rather fond of the idea of being forever done with sitting in that little room bubbling in my answers with my number two pencil . . . But obviously getting into a top notch program like NYU means too much to me. I'm not about to get lazy. So, alas, I will take the SAT 2s. </p>
<p>If I don't do well, does anyone know if I have the power to keep them from sending the scores out to my schools?</p>
<p>Also does anyone know what the particular two tests I mentioned (Spanish with listening and Mathematics 1) are like?</p>
<p>Thanks everyone. with out your advice I probably would have just skipped it.</p>
<p>If you do horribly you may choose not to send the scores-I think you cancel them the day you take them. You cannot choose which ones go to NYU though. My son took both Math 1C and said it was easy (he got a 780) and just took Spanish 2 weeks ago so didn't get score back yet but said it was not an easy exam. Good luck</p>
<p>While SAT2 tests are not required, and only recommended, my opinion when you are trying to get in some place, do what is recommended!! Why would you not? Of course, you can get in without them but I would do everything possible. This was the only BFA program on my daughter's list that wanted these tests or recommended them, I should say, and so my D took them just because of NYU (though all her other schools saw the results). She took three tests in one day in May of tenth grade and was done with it. I have no clue what, if any, impact it had on her academic end of her admissions to Tisch. However, she scored very well on them, and particularly very high on two of them. I think the SAT2's are also another way to show some mastery of content when everyone is coming out of different schools and in her case, she comes from an unknown rural public high school. All she did to prepare was to buy the SAT2 practice books (I recommend that to the student who was asking what the tests were like). She looked the booklet over to familiarize herself, and then took the two practice timed tests to get a feel for it and to judge her general score result to gauge if this was the right test for her. I disagree with Mary Anna on the English Literature SAT2 test. It is the SAT2 WRITING test that will be phased out because of the NEW SATs that include a writing portion now. My D did not take the new SATs (she took all of her tests in spring of her tenth grade year only). She took the SAT2 Writing, English Literature and MathIC. Scored very high on first two and did well on the third one. She could have retaken the third one to try to get higher in fall of 11th grade but did not want to for this one school and felt it was good enough and she had scored really well on the regular SAT math to show she knew math and had taken Calculus, so she left it at that. I don't know the Spanish test as my kids took French but my older D took the French SAT2 twice and did pretty well on it but said it was a tough one. English Literature you can't study for that much as it is more knowledge you gain over time through being a critical reader. If you are great at language arts, however, it is not that tough. </p>
<p>My daughter is a sophomore at NYU i the Strasberg studio and submitted only her ACT scores. She scored very well on the ACT and I suggested she take the SAT2 tests, but she said, no, she had taken enough tests, thank you. I cannot quote her score or she would kill me, but I will say it was above 30 and according to Tisch advisor, about the average score of most Tisch drama students.</p>
<p>Just my two cents. I tend to agree with Susan that it is better to give them more than what they request, in particular based on the fact that ACT scores are high among most applicants to Tisch. On the other hand, my daughter was accepted with ACT scores only; she was an ED, however.</p>
<p>We're not to that point yet, since D just took PSAT this weekend, but she does have a friend who is a sophomore at NYU Cap21. When my D asked about the SAT2 tests (because she does not want to take them and no other school on her list even recommends them) he said he never took any at all. He was admitted ED. But he was also salutatorian of his class, although from a small, not very competitive high school. So for whatever that's worth, food for thought! I have recommended that my D take two (since you no longer have to take the writing one) which will most likely be US History at the end of this year and French next fall when she will be in AP French. Or maybe the English Literature one. Who knows! We'll see what actually happens!</p>
<p>Theaterdivasmom....I think it is sorta different when you have taken ACT because ACT has various content areas, right? The SAT is just verbal and math and is a bit more reasoning. ACT breaks down the subjects. Kids from the East Coast tend to take the SATs. In fact, I really don't know kids who took ACT from around here. Therefore, the SAT2s don't overlap the SATs as much as they might with the ACT. </p>
<p>I also know someone who got into Tisch without SAT2s. I am sure this is possible. But I feel when a school RECOMMENDS something, why not do it? There is not that much to do to prepare for SAT2s in some of the subject areas. Like I said, my D did three tests in one sitting in May of tenth grade and was done with it. It is not like she was dying to do it but in the end, I think these strong scores went to every school and maybe it just helped bolster the academic profile. In her case, she also was an early graduate, so the more to show, the better. She never took the PSAT. She took the SAT twice, in April and June of tenth grade and then the SAT2 3 subject tests in May of tenth grade. NOT fun but those were the only sittings. The prep for these tests was maybe a few hours tops per test....read over book, take two practice tests that are just one hour long. Not a huge thing to do and so seemed worth it since for NYU academics count 50% of the admissions decision. She was a RD applicant. A kid could always take a practice test at home and gauge how they do and if they are reasonably happy with where they are with scoring to have this added to the academic profile. I think for my D, the results of her SAT2s enhanced her academic package. But I'm sure kids get in without these scores. Her friends applying to Tisch seemed to all take the SAT2s, from what I know. To me, when a school recommends certain coursework prior to college, go with the recommendations. If they recommend certain tests, unless there is a compelling reason not to take them, it seems beneficial to go with what they are looking for on the application. I think for instance, Tisch values being able to write. I think with the essays and her Writing SAT2 score (which I realize now is a change from her year), they got a sense of her skill in that area. We have no idea what factors they saw as positive or not but simply know that they do weigh academics heavily at NYU and it is a competitive school without the Tisch factor or artistic part even factored into the equation. So, why not try to put your best foot forward in that area, know what I mean? It can't hurt but only help. I am sure you can get in without the tests if everything else is looking real good but why not go for it in every area you can and then you don't have to second guess "if only I had done X". You do get to pick which subjects to take so stick with the strengths and try out a practice test to see if that test is a viable option. It does not take a ton of preparation but some. No kid wants to do it, that's for sure, but they can all eventually say like my D did at the end of tenth grade as she walked out of the last SAT, "yipee! I never have to take one of these tests again!" :D</p>
<p>When my s applied to NYU (2 years ago) he completed 3 SAT IIs, but other colleges he was applying to required them. The word at the time was that your scores could help you but were not likely to hurt you. If there's time, you could have your SAT scores sent THEN take your subject tests (and send only if you score well).</p>
<p>Thank you Jasmom as I had been meaning to suggest that strategy last night about sending the SAT score reports to all schools. Then take the SAT2's and only send if the scores would seem to add to the student's profile. This of course, would cost more to resend reports after the SAT2 's are taken but might be worth doing in your case. We only sent score reports once to all the schools on the list, after ALL testing was completed.</p>