SAT/ACT Question

<p>I scored a 33 on the ACT but a mere 1940 on the SAT. Based on UPenn's score policies, do I have to submit both test scores, or can I just send my ACT score?</p>

<p>You can send just ACT.</p>

<p>You should send all your scores. Admissions officers will only look at your best scores and combine those for your decision, but you should send all your scores.</p>

<p>From the website: “Which Test? Penn requires either the SAT Reasoning Test and two SAT Subject Tests OR the ACT with Writing. No preference is given to either test. However, Penn requires that applicants submit all testing results from each administration of the ACT, SAT, and SAT Subject Tests.”</p>

<p>uhh who has the correct answer? ^^^</p>

<p>The website says to report all scores. Don’t take your chances. I submitted a 2030 on the SAT and a 31 on the ACT (but all test dates), and I got into CAS. Shine in other areas and you have a great chance! P.S.–I am a poor white boy who has no relations at Penn.</p>

<p>What Penn means:</p>

<p>If you choose to send ACT, send scores from all of your testing dates.
If you choose to send SAT/SATII’s, send scores from all of your testing dates.</p>

<p>This is what I was told at Penn in March of last year.</p>

<p>But what if you choose to send the ACT and the SAT? Are you obligated to then send your (one in my case) Subject Test score?</p>

<p>Because Penn does not use CollegeBoard’s Score Choice feature, yes.</p>

<p>thanks everyone</p>

<p>Again, you are required to send in EVERY score from EVERY test you have taken (SAT and ACT)</p>

<p>@ Superfanny -</p>

<p>Bull****. </p>

<p>Let me make this clear:</p>

<p>1) You can take only the SAT (and two Subject Tests). If this is the case, you must submit all scores from all test dates for the SAT only.</p>

<p>2) You can take only the ACT (with writing). If this is the case, you must submit all scores from all test dates for the ACT only.</p>

<p>3) You can take both the SAT and ACT but choose not to report your SAT (and two Subject Tests) because you scored better on the ACT. If this is the case, you must submit all scores from all tests dates for the ACT (with writing) ONLY.</p>

<p>4) You can take both the SAT and ACT but choose not to report your ACT (with writing) because you scored better on the SAT. If this is the case, you must submit all of your SAT (and two Subject Tests) from all test dates for the SAT ONLY.</p>

<p>5) You can take both the SAT and ACT and choose to submit BOTH. If this is the case, you must submit all scores for all tests from all test dates for both the SAT and ACT.</p>

<p>^^That’s wrong; read the website. I called and they told me to submit everything, ACTs and SATs. I thought that before too, but they want EVERYTHING.</p>

<p>I spoke with an admissions rep in Chicago; you must submit EVERYTHING. Basically, if you took a standardized exam in high school (grades 9, 10, 11, and 12), such as the SAT, ACT, SAT-II, they want to see your score. They take your best score into account; do not panic. Just send them all; you don’t want to be caught in an ethics violation later on.</p>

<p>I asked my admissions rep, and was told to submit EVERYTHING. I had your same ACT score, but even worse SATs, and I got in. Just be honest! They’ll look at your best!</p>

<p>I just wrote a huge reply and it was deleted. But, essentially, I think Penn was either misinformed as to the testing policies of peer institutions – Penn is the only college (at least the only Ivy) that requires everything – or they are trying to decrease their admitted applicant scores so that more (low-scoring) students will apply in the future, lowering their acceptance rate. Most students do better on one test than the other but, if required to submit all scores, the “Middle 50%” range will necessarily decrease as the “Percent Who Submitted Scores” will approach 100% for both ACT and SAT. </p>

<p>Theories:</p>

<p>1) Perhaps Penn thinks that they already have the prestige to attract top applicants and that they just needs the single-digit acceptance rate to “move ahead.” </p>

<p>2) Perhaps they are trying to discourage applicants from taking both tests. In league with Collegeboard maybe?</p>

<p>3) Perhaps the message regarding the test policy from “above” suffered from an imprecision of language, resulting in incorrect test reporting instructions. Maybe they don’t in fact require everything. </p>

<p>What are some of your theories or ideas as to why they are the only college to require everything?</p>

<p>Also, why didn’t they note the change in their policy?</p>

<p>@Lynxes: As to your last point, I’m certain the words spoken were: “If you have taken any standardized test in high school, we [admissions officers] would like to see the score.”</p>

<p>I think the biggest component is to ensure students aren’t taken the same test a large amount of times. Example: A friend of mine took the ACT 5 times. Got a 36 on the last time. Great-a 36 is a perfect score! But to take it FIVE times? Obsessive, no? I, personally, think that is what Penn is afraid of-students who obsess over these tests and take it an “X” amount of times. Thoughts??</p>

<p>Personally,I think everyone is so confused on this issue,leaving it open to many interpretations.There’s absolutely no clarity on this,and I really believe even the admissions officers are not 100% sure,that’s why they give the vague and easiest answer-submit ALL scores-putting the ball in our court to interpret/misinterpret as we please.</p>