<p>I have not seen, although it might be posted in some blog, any average SAT values of international students admitted at MIT. Let's face it, international students will most likely score way lower in the English sections, and I think it's not fair to compare them with native speakers when it comes to English. Moreover, international students may have never heard the word/s SAT before they actually started thinking about applying in some particular universities in US. Anyways... anyone knows anything ?</p>
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<p>You might want to look into taking the TOEFL.</p>
<p>Thank you, I’ve seen that. I’m curious about SATs; I’m taking them.</p>
<p>I second that … but not only the SAT Reasoning … but also SAT IIs … thinking and solving problems in a language different from your native one is a bit confusing … I hope admissions officers would take this into consideration…</p>
<p>I’m bringing this topic back just in case someone cares to reply.</p>
<p>Do you have any specific questions?</p>
<p>MIT certainly takes this into account.</p>
<p>First, international students’ applications are read and selected separately from domestic students’ applications. While there are certainly some native English speakers in the international pool, international students are generally being compared with other non-native English speakers during the selection process.</p>
<p>Still, it’s important to remember that classes at MIT are conducted entirely in English, so it’s critical that non-native speakers demonstrate an ability to read and write in English. That doesn’t mean that scores must be perfect, or that an international applicant with a marginally higher score on the CR portion of the SAT is automatically admitted over someone with a marginally lower score.</p>
<p>MIT’s admissions process is holistic. Any factors relevant to your academic performance are considered, and speaking English as a second (or third, or fourth) language is absolutely a factor relevant to your performance on the SAT CR section.</p>
<p>I would go for TOEFL+SAT IIs.</p>
<p>i think international students tend to do well in SAT IIs and poorly in SAT Is, so that is your best bet.</p>
<p>In fact i did a trick of taking SAT II and TOEFL first and submitting it to MIT. Only after I did that, i submitted complete scores with SAT I to the other schools that required it. </p>
<p>Thanks to that there was no way MIT would know if I messed up on my SAT I ;).</p>
<p>Thank you for your replies, they reassured me. I don’t know my scores from SAT I yet, but I though about this trick as well, cttr. Anyways, being good at math, officers will count everything 
I believe in the holistic proces…</p>
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<p>I would too, but in the opposite way. As molliebatmit eloquently put it, MIT classes are taught in English. In laboratories, in discussion classes, throughout the Institute, the ability to think and solve problems presented in English, under some pressure, is endemic to the MIT experience.</p>
<p>There should be some kind of testing, to make sure students are able to communicate and solve problems in English, although doing bad on SATs doesn’t necessarily show that the person would not fit into American society in terms of language. </p>
<p>If an international gets about 500 in each of English sections, that would be pretty good I suppose.</p>
<p>Well, that is the point of allowing students who don’t speak English as a first language to substitute the TOEFL for the SAT requirement. MIT doesn’t have a preference for the SAT over the TOEFL, and if you submit both, they’ll only consider the score that paints you in the most favorable light – no tricks of submission required.</p>