SAT I or II

<p>Hello, Does anyone know if the academies prefer SAT I or II? Much appreciated!</p>

<p>mildad- The academy is only concerneed with SAT I's. We were told at summer seminar that SAT II's were not required. So take your SATI's early and often to ensure the best score possible.</p>

<p>Thank you so much!</p>

<p>Our son took the SAT IIs for other schools, but yeah, USNA doesn't use them. What hbc025 said about the scores is very true. They took bits and pieces from the best ACTs (took twice, once after Jr. year, Dec. of Sr. year) and SAT (took once after Jr. year) to create his profile. You may want to take both tests and see which one your candidate does better on. For ours it was the ACT.</p>

<p>They are actually not called SAT II anymore - now called SAT Subject Tests. Obviously USNA sees the scores with collegeboard's all-scores report if you send it to them. It's anyone's guess as to whether they can tip the scales one way or another, but I can't see admissions just ignoring them. There are some subjective 'Whole Person Multiple' points available to the board.</p>

<p>I agree on the ACT's...my son took them late (Dec '05) and scored better (statistically) than on the SAT I's. Take both SAT I's and ACT's so USNA can take the best and apply to your board score.</p>

<p>Uh..... for us old farts here, what's the difference?</p>

<p>Just two different brands of college entry tests. The ACT is much more detailed in it's results, IMO.</p>

<p>From their website:</p>

<p>"The ACT is America's most widely accepted college entrance exam. It assesses high school students' general educational development and their ability to complete college-level work.</p>

<p>The multiple-choice tests cover four skill areas: English, mathematics, reading, and science."</p>

<p>They take all of the individual scores and then put them into a composite score. I like it because it is more than just verbal/math. </p>

<p>I just seems that since more than one instrument is available, then you should find the one that best reflects your abilities.</p>

<p>Yeah, but what's the difference between SAT I and SAT II?</p>

<p>SAT I is a general knowledge Exam that covers math, reading and writing. SAT II's are subject specific exams and you choose which ones you want to take.</p>

<p>Sorry! Misunderstood the question.</p>

<p>I know some Ivies like Cornell require three SAT subject tests. I decided not to apply to any that required, so it feels like a waste. But I did REALLY well on them, so maybe that helped my other apps. yay.</p>

<p>Sounds a lot like the (old?) New York State Regents exams.</p>

<p>So SAT IIs are not even considered by the Naval Academy?</p>

<p>The old SAT II writing test is what is incorporated now into the new SAT test - hence the 3 scores. If you look at the USNA website - they still are only concerned mostly with your Math/Reading anyway- even in the new SAT scoring system.</p>

<p>You might call Admissions yourself this week and ask about this - and post your answer from them. But here in CA, only the Univ. of CA system cares about SAT II's.....and it's one more annoying test on top of all the regular finals/AP/IB tests kids take anyway. So I have yet to understand the point - other than a money issue from the College Board and select schools.</p>

<p>The Academy never gives you the space to send them SAT IIs, so I don't think they want them even if you tak them.</p>

<p>SAT II (subject tests) are FAR more intense than the NY Regents Exams, even when comparing to the Regents Exams in their "old" (pre 2000) version.</p>

<p>CM</p>

<p>Well, if that's the case, I'd take every SAT II exam I could get my hands on. ANYTHING you can do to demonstrate your knowledge is a plus.</p>

<p>As for USNA not looking, I can't say for certain, but I remember sending them my Regents scores and all three sets of my SAT scores, along with the results of one or two other exams I took.</p>

<p>It's like a job interview: The more you can show you are more qualified than the schlub next to you, the better chance you have of getting the job.</p>

<p>Also, if they're as tough as you say, then DO IT. You think the selection board doesn't know that?</p>

<p>Man, I'd love to sit in on the selection board. I'd love to see their methodology in selecting....</p>

<p>Zaphod - if a kid wants to show competence, brilliance and talent...they take as many AP tests as they can. Those are the tests WORTH something at all colleges and the tests that can actually HELP validate classes at USNA. If my kid had the choice to take SAT II's or AP's....it's a no brainer. Anyone else out there agree or disagree with me?</p>

<p>Yes take as many APs as possible. SATIIs could help during the admissions process (?), they might use it to decide between two similar candidates. They say they don't use it at all so don't bother sending them though. </p>

<p>Anyone know how many classes we are allowed to validate?</p>

<p>The only problem is...for schools that don't offer many AP's or require a prerequisite to AP's, you cant take the tests until your senior year which is too late for USNA admissions. You can however, submit any AP's you took prior to your senior year.</p>

<p>One thing about Sat Subject Tests: The pool of people who take them is much more selective (competitive) than those who take the SAT I's, so don't expect your statistical percentage to be nearly as high.</p>

<p>USNA doesn't have anything to officially rank SAT Subject Tests, so unless lots of people submit them, it would be hard to raise/lower your board rank based on them....but you never know! I say it can't hurt, yet may help.</p>