SAT ranking

<p>I thought this would be interesting...</p>

<p>Of the top 25 universities in the country ranked by USNEWS, I ranked them by old SAT ranges from the college board. I added up the four scores in the range to get a number.</p>

<p>Example:
Brown U
Verbal: 650 - 760
Math: 660 - 760
=2830</p>

<p>Here they are:
1. California Institute of Technology 3020
2. Harvard College 2980
3. Massachusetts Institute of Technology 2970
4. Yale University 2960
5. Princeton University 2930
6. Stanford University 2920
7. Dartmouth University 2910
8. Rice University 2870
8. Washington University in Saint Louis 2870
10. Duke University 2860
10. University of Chicago 2860
12. Columbia College 2840
13. Brown University 2830
13. University of Pennsylvania 2830
15. Northwestern University 2820
16. Johns Hopkins University 2790
17. Cornell University 2780
18. Carnegie Mellon University 2770
19. Emory University 2760
20. Georgetown University 2750
20. University of Notre Dame 2750
22. Vanderbilt University 2710
23. University of Virginia 2660
24. University of California - Berkeley 2650
25. University of Michigan 2610</p>

<p>Keep in mind that public universities are low because they have a responsibility to admit in-state students.</p>

<p>Thanks for the stats, misterme! It's an interesting list.</p>

<p>Some really surprising stats - including the fact Caltech is #1 and Vanderbilt and Virginia are ranked higher than Michigan</p>

<p>Vanderbilt is also ranked higher than Michigan in U.S. News. And Berkeley. And Virginia.</p>

<p>Pretty accurate list. I actually think that SAT scores are among the best, if not the best, measures of a school, easily better than other malleable academic stats like GPA and % at top of class.
Seems like CMU's school of computer science really boosts the school up.</p>

<p>Mix in LACs with that list and you got a nice ranking there.</p>

<p>I love how people say how SATs dont mean anything, then you look at schools, and schools with the highest SAT percentiles just "happen" to have the smartest kids.</p>

<p>yea, SAT scores is a strong measurement. more so in rankings. (meaning SAT scores are less important to an individual applying than they are for analyzing the university)</p>

<p>um, I got into Rice, Chicago, Cornell, Duke, Northwestern, and I chose Cornell. Cornell is as strong or stronger than these other schools that I turned down. Anyone who tells u otherwise is ignorant.</p>

<p>haha keep telling yourself that. :)</p>

<p>Well USNews uses SAT scores in its ranking overtly, and juggles the weights to match thier notions of quality, which are largely influenced by SAT scores. So it is hardly a surprise that the top 25 by a list that give substantial weights to SAT would have high SAT's.</p>

<p>Of course this ranking penalizes any school whose 75%ile is 800 (MIT, Caltech). If the scale went that high, their student bodies might have math SAT 75%ile of 900.</p>

<p>Very interesting but bursts the bubble of those who think SATs don't matter.</p>

<p>why would it be "surprising" that uva's test scores are higher than umich?</p>

<p>we're only talking about the SAT scores. not talking about strength of the school.
i got into both rice and cornell too, btw.</p>

<p>Everyone and their mother got into Cornell. :)</p>

<p>BAM, collegekid!</p>

<p>lol jk</p>

<p>fairly accurate, but here is a couple things that could skew things.</p>

<p>1) Certain schools take high SAT scores to boost their ratings...ie Wash U, while other schools do not weight them as heavily (ie Brown)</p>

<p>2) Some publics don't do mix and match scoring, which would punish Michigan & UC's (which only take scores from one sitting) quite badly.</p>

<p>yes you're correct. i just put together i list to show the rankings by SAT score only. i dont mean to create overall rankings.</p>

<p>"Of course this ranking penalizes any school whose 75%ile is 800 (MIT, Caltech). If the scale went that high, their student bodies might have math SAT 75%ile of 900."
How? I think MIT and Caltech benefit, because their 25th percentile math is always going to be high, because they demand high math SAT scores of just about all their students. Additionally, they are not much less picky about the verbal score. That results in a high 25-75 math and a verbal comparable or slightly inferior to its peers like HYP.</p>

<p>Stambliark, I really find it hard to believe that any school, like Brown according to you, with high 75th percentile does not weigh SATs that heavily. Colleges like to say that just so that more people apply, yielding more rejects and a higher acceptance rate.</p>

<p>It penalizes them because the top score a school can get is 800 for 75%, even if that is really 50%ile at that school. So the relatively low truncation of math SAT scores underestimates the math talents of the students at the top tech schools.</p>

<p>fyi.....similar thread regarding improvement of 25%-75% spread at top schools:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=59289%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=59289&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>misterme....good thread. Here's the addition of LACS per comment by ashernm. Also added specialty schools. I don't know where you got your SAT stats.....the ones below are slightly different & from the 2005 US News. I've included all those >2700, which cuts off most of the public schools, except William & Mary. Those Claremont colleges look pretty darn good. 41 total made the cut:</p>

<pre><code>SCHOOL / Combined 25% + 75% SAT
</code></pre>

<p>1 Cal Tech / 3040
2 Harvard / 2990
3 MIT / 2970
4 Yale / 2960
5 Princeton / 2930
6 Harvey Mudd / 2920
7 Pomona / 2910
8 Stanford / 2900
9 Swarthmore / 2870
10 Amherst / 2860
11 Middlebury / 2860
12 Dartmouth / 2860
13 Rice / 2860
14 Duke / 2850
15 Penn / 2840
16 Williams / 2820
17 Columbia / 2820
18 Webb / 2810
19 Chicago / 2810
20 Washington U / 2800
21 Claremont McK / 2790
22 Northwestern / 2790
23 Brown / 2790
24 Carleton / 2780
25 Johns Hopkins / 2760
26 Emory / 2760
27 Carnegie Mellon / 2760
28 Wesleyan / 2750
29 Vassar / 2750
30 Cornell / 2750
31 Georgetown / 2750
32 Haverford / 2740
33 W&L / 2740
34 Bowdoin / 2730
35 Notre Dame / 2730
36 Wellesley / 2710
37 Davidson / 2710
38 Barnard / 2710
39 Colgate / 2700
40 Cooper Union / 2700
41 William & Mary / 2700</p>

<p>Your USNWR may be dated. I checked cooper union, and it's total was 2720. <a href="http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=1341&profileId=6%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=1341&profileId=6&lt;/a>
I looked up Webb. I got 2740. <a href="http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=768&profileId=6%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=768&profileId=6&lt;/a>
I doubt that the numbers are correct, though probably close enough.
Afan, it only understimates those in the middle. This ranking is about the same as ranking by SAT average.</p>

<p>UVA is higher because many students from Thomas Jefferson High School attend/are admitted to UVA. The average SAT for the HS is 1482 so that really brings up the 75 percentile.</p>