<p>Hi</p>
<p>I'm applying to caltech next year, but I just got my june SAT back with a 800V and 650M, which is weird, because most of my practice tests were 800s. It turns out I accidently omitted 10 questions. -_-</p>
<p>If I re-take the sat and get an expected 770+ in math, will the 650 matter or hurt my application?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>I'm guessing probably not. Caltech considers all SAT scores, but the highest one is still the most important one it seems. And if you got a 650 omitting 10 questions, that should be a guaranteed 800 when you take it again. Good luck!</p>
<p>Yeah. If they see 650->800, it's going to be pretty obvious that there isn't anything meaningful in the 650.</p>
<p>the range of SAT I scores for students admitted to the class of 2009 is as follows: SAT I Verbal - 460 to 800; SAT I Math - 640 to 800. </p>
<p>for what it's worth</p>
<p>"If I re-take the sat and get an expected 770+ in math, will the 650 matter or hurt my application?"</p>
<p>My son got 2 wrong answers and no omits - and got a 760. So don't make any careless mistakes!</p>
<p>^ i missed 3 and got a 720... story of my life... its been 3 months and im still not over it.</p>
<p>I missed one question on math, two times in a row.... aaaarghhhh (780 and 770), and the worst part is, they were easy questions. I hate making stupid mistakes!</p>
<p>The third and final time I really wanted that perfect 800 on math, and I ended up with 760 (probably missed two, but didn't order a score report). And the final signal that hell was frozen over was that I also received a 760 on verbal. I would never have guessed that my verbal would be within 50 points of my math.</p>
<p>^--- you are nutty. there is no difference in caltech's eyes (or mit's or anyone else's) between a 780 and an 800, or for that matter a 750 and an 800. the difference between these scores is one or two arithmetic mistakes, and i made more than that computing my total at the restaurant half an hour ago.</p>
<p>so please please please chill out and stop feeding the college board.</p>
<p>Either that or they'll see the 650 --> 800, think you figured out a way to cheat the SAT, be impressed, and accept you on demonstrated cunning. ;)</p>
<p>"stop feeding the college board"</p>
<p>Very nice, they should make a shirt out of that ("please don't feed the college board"). However, Ben, rest assured that I was not retaking the SAT to get a perfect math score. Rather it was to increase my verbal to a somewhat decent level... and it worked... 600 to 670 to 760. The perfect math score was just a [failed] side project.</p>
<p>On a side note, the jump from 670 to 760 verbal astounded me. Not that I increased my score by 90 points over a 6 month period, but rather that I did it by studying a practice SAT book for 6 hours the night before. If anyone tells you that you can't cram for the SAT, they are lying.</p>
<p>oh, okay, well now things make sense. i thought you were just in need of help, but it turns out your efforts were not unreasonable.</p>
<p>Ben is my hero.</p>
<p><em>lurks</em></p>
<p>Arwen1
for a math and science school, 650 is not enough, especially Caltech. I would retake it</p>
<p>Yes, if you accidentally omitted 10 questions, definitely retake it. No one will care. I somehow forgot to do the last 2 pages of the Writing SATII and got a 610. I promptly retook it and got a 780. I got into MIT, so I guess they didn't care.</p>
<p>SAT I Verbal - 460 to 800. wow i m relieved</p>
<p>^ but remember the average verbal score is still above 700</p>
<p>also remember that the people admitted with low SAT Verbals might be speakers of another language</p>
<p>that's exactly my case. i have been speaking another language for 15 years versus english for 2 and half years.</p>
<p>ha, an already here sat scores thread. anyway.<br>
I JUST saw my sat II scores like 5 minutes ago-- math was really good, so I'm not going to bother asking about that, but physics 680 and chemistry 730? this is already my second time taking the sat IIs [first with physics tho] and each time I take these sat tests my scores jump up significantly-- 110 point increase in chem and 70 point increase in math-- but are those science scores good enough? would any negative impact of these scores possibly be negated by a [hopefully] 5 on my ap chem test or the fact that the physics score represents my knowledge of the subject after 1 year, but I'll be taking another year of physics at a nearby university [and will of course learn more]?</p>
<p>To be honest, Caltech places a good deal of weight on the science SAT II's. They're not perfect (and people often do badly on the physics SAT II because of a physics course that covered only a fraction of the material on the test). Still, your current scores would be a significant flaw in a Caltech application. Realistically, we look for 750-800 on the science and math SAT II's unless there is a really excellent reason why not. If you have to retake to get them there, that is probably worth it.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>